Quoting: CatKillerWindows is still unsupported on the Deck, but the ability to repurpose it as a Windows machine increases customer confidence. The current restore image nukes-and-paves, like the Windows installer does, but Valve did say that when they eventually get around to releasing a SteamOS 3 installer that it will be considerate of the dual-boot use case.

QuoteWhile Steam Deck is fully capable of dual-boot, the SteamOS installer that provides a dual-boot wizard isn't ready yet.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3131696199122435099

You found the link I was searching for... I forgot about the Windows drivers page.

Maybe the dualboot support will happen when Valve release SteamOS 3 for general PC use?

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Quoting: FisterfrankAny word on the dedicated supported “dual boot” that’s suppose to be included in steam OS 3 update? I know there are simple workarounds but that’s not what Valve advertised.

Personnally, I have no recollection of any promise regarding dualbooting. All Valve said was that you may install Windows on the Steam Deck, but Windows is not officially supported. Basically, if that's what you want to do, you are on your own.

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The more I think about it, the more I believe that Valve's timing, with the Steam Deck, is perfect. There is no way I'm going to buy these overpriced gpus when I can do all my gaming on a whole sub 700$ (at worst) complete PC. I'm currently on a CP2077 run and it's awesome. I even ditched my GTX 1660 Super (I gave it to my son) in favor of an RX 6500 XT. With SteamOS 3 (Holoiso), on my desktop (PCIE4) and coupled with system wide AMD FSR, on a 1080p TV, it's more than enough, as a family Steam Machine.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: DrMcCoylol, 450W. I'm sorry, but this is utterly ridiculous.

I'm waiting for cards to reach the point where you start playing a game, the graphics card starts drawing power, and the breaker blows.

Making me remember...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inWKw8nqQlI

96 days... Lol!

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Quoting: CatKiller... as they found with the last generation when people were willing to pay way more than Nvidia were charging and all the middle-men were pocketing the difference.

Yep, but these buyers were crypto miners, not PC Gamers, that bought gpus by the dozens. It's two different markets, two different demographics, two different budget ranges. Crypto miners didn't care, they knew mining would recoup the high prices. There is nothing comparable in the PC Gaming space.

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Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: TheRiddickPrices however are skewed thanks to the crypto craze period where GPUs went up %500 $...

The crypto craze is gone, and it never had any impact on Nvidia or AMD's msrp.

It showed that they'd been undercharging before. "What the market will bear" has been drummed as the only appropriate price for every product in every industry for generations.

But when the craze is gone, there is an overstock of gpus on the market and prices are collapsing back to normal because the gaming segment can't keep up. The crypto miners might be willing to pay double price, but PC gamers, probably not so much. If Nvidia is basing it's prices on crypto miners' willingness, they might miss the target for the forseeable futur. Now that the Ethereum as fully merged into PoS, let's see how it plays out for Nvidia, with it's traditional market.

Unless Nvidia plans on pushing PC gamers towards GeForce Now with higher price brackets...

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Quoting: TheRiddickYou'd be better to just get a NVIDIA Geforce Now account and streaming it via online, I know lots of people who do that because they've given up on the cost of PC hardware.

That might be right and it's probably part of Nvidia's strategy too. Luckily, being the owner of an Nvidia Shield, I already have a founders subscription, on GeForce Now. So...

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Quoting: TheRiddickPrices however are skewed thanks to the crypto craze period where GPUs went up %500 $...

The crypto craze is gone, and it never had any impact on Nvidia or AMD's msrp.

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Quoting: TheRiddickThe 4090 is projected stable TDP of 450W? what was the 3090 TDP?

350W

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What completely baffles me is the fact that with every new RTX generation, prices are getting higher and tdp too... To me it doesn't mean that RTX is getting closer to mainstream adoption, on the contrary, to me, it looks like Nvidia is heading in the opposite direction.

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