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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: elmapulthe game is running on linux? you forgot to mention that... some times an emulator isnt running as fast on linux as it is on windows.
in some cases the linux build dont even compile, sigh.
example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka6C7pDg3vA

but you know what would be cool? if we forget stupid projects like atari vcs that dont have any chance to compete against the likes of ps4(and 5), xbox one(and scarlet) and nintendo switch(or whetever they come up after) and instead focus on making sure that linux is the best platform in terms of breaking exclusivity (funding projects like this, more than the windows folks do, making sure we are their priority)

Spec wise, the Atari VCS isn't far off the PS4 (assuming the specs are legit). Will it compete with the PS4/5? Probably not because Nutari (as some have not so fondly referred to them as) doesn't have oodles of money like Sony does. But the AMD hardware they're using is more powerful than say a Switch is. In fact the Switch isn't all that powerful at all, the only thing that makes it cool is the form factor (portable plus dockable). It's an nVidia Tegra X1, which was released in 2015.

you forgot that nintendo have exclusive games.
and so does sony.
by the time atari launch their console, sony will anounce ps5 and everybody will save money for it.

i know its not trying to compete with ms,sony and nintendo, but the question is, who gonna buy it? aside from linux fanboys and people who fell nostalgy for atari?

People who wanted Steam Machines? :P

Switch has very few exclusives. I have a Switch, but none of the exclusives have really kept my attention. Breath of the Wild was decent, but I'm so used to other open world games, that it was infuriating to me that you can't actually craft items. I stopped playing it a long while ago.

But if you'd noticed what I said, it's going to be the software library that matters. The funny thing is everyone keeps saying that it's nothing more than a raspberry pi that costs too much, and that's not quite true. But yeah if there is no software for it, who cares? Or if there is no software that you can't just run on a cheap Linux box, who cares. Only thing it has going for it above that is probably the size, it still is pretty difficult to build your own PC that is console sized and not have severe heat issues, or bad performance.

nintendo has just the most famous exclusives and some of the most famous franchises ever.
plus its the only way to play good games on the god (aside from a few android ports, all android have is gambling games) so in an certain way, all switch games are "exclusives" they are on mobility

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Quoting: GuestThey mention visual studio in their software tools. I don't know how to take this. I am still not sure these games will run natively on Debian or trough a proton-like tool. And even if they do, it wouldn't mean they would be released to Linux desktop players for fears of high support costs for little revenue.

Visual Studio Code has Linux support. Never used it and probably, I never will 'cause vim is all you need!

you dont need visual studio or anything having support to run on linux, you just need it to compile for linux.

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Quoting: DesumNever going to support this crap. It's the ultimate DRM and walled garden rolled into one. What's the point of gaming on Linux when you don't even have the game running on somebody else's computer anyway?

i can agree on that, but the point is not just you, if more people migrate to linux since the gaming barrier break due to stadia, then we will have more native games, wine will evolve faster and so on...

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Quoting: subImho without Valve putting serious money into Linux gaming this wouldn't be even possible.

Hard to believe without all the awareness of Linux building up over the last few years and all the efforts that went into the infrastructure, Google would not have convinced a single AAA developer to go that route.

1)google has a lot of money, those companies develop for platforms with 0 users, almost no know how on how those platforms work, they learn an brand new programing language and develop games for it in 4 years or so, when there is money involved, they will do anything.

2)google is trying to enter the gaming market, so even without valve it would do that.

3)google is trying to enter the desktop operating systens market (chromeOS) and he need games to do that

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Quoting: ElectricPrismI hope Cyberpunk 2077 offers their Vulkan layer on Windows, at least then Proton could run it really well on Linux out of box.

Quoting: Sir_DiealotNo interest in the lineup or Stadia, but maybe Cyberpunk 2077 will get a proper Linux release. Yeah right, as if.

i dont think so, they canceled witcher 3 and after years without giving an reason they said it was the bad reception that they got on witcher 2 because it was using an translation layer.

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Quoting: elmapulthe game is running on linux? you forgot to mention that... some times an emulator isnt running as fast on linux as it is on windows.
in some cases the linux build dont even compile, sigh.
example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka6C7pDg3vA

but you know what would be cool? if we forget stupid projects like atari vcs that dont have any chance to compete against the likes of ps4(and 5), xbox one(and scarlet) and nintendo switch(or whetever they come up after) and instead focus on making sure that linux is the best platform in terms of breaking exclusivity (funding projects like this, more than the windows folks do, making sure we are their priority)

Spec wise, the Atari VCS isn't far off the PS4 (assuming the specs are legit). Will it compete with the PS4/5? Probably not because Nutari (as some have not so fondly referred to them as) doesn't have oodles of money like Sony does. But the AMD hardware they're using is more powerful than say a Switch is. In fact the Switch isn't all that powerful at all, the only thing that makes it cool is the form factor (portable plus dockable). It's an nVidia Tegra X1, which was released in 2015.

you forgot that nintendo have exclusive games.
and so does sony.
by the time atari launch their console, sony will anounce ps5 and everybody will save money for it.

i know its not trying to compete with ms,sony and nintendo, but the question is, who gonna buy it? aside from linux fanboys and people who fell nostalgy for atari?

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the game is running on linux? you forgot to mention that... some times an emulator isnt running as fast on linux as it is on windows.
in some cases the linux build dont even compile, sigh.
example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka6C7pDg3vA

but you know what would be cool? if we forget stupid projects like atari vcs that dont have any chance to compete against the likes of ps4(and 5), xbox one(and scarlet) and nintendo switch(or whetever they come up after) and instead focus on making sure that linux is the best platform in terms of breaking exclusivity (funding projects like this, more than the windows folks do, making sure we are their priority)

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i think its the stadia effect, google chosed amd because they were more open, or something like that.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleAgain it seems to be a wide range of underlying tech. I think internal testing and subsequent whitelisting have more to do with ticking compatibility boxes than anything else.

Gorogoa is a Java game, for example. It's also one of the most clever puzzle games I have ever seen.

actually now that i read that, it make sense, it sounds like what i had to do to make an windows-only renpy game work: just open it as if its a project file and click on run.

but i had to figure out it was made on renpy (quite easy once i know that renpy exists) then install it from the developers site not from the repo (the repo version is borkend and outdated, the developer explicitly said they dont support this means of distribution)

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Quoting: EikeI agree on what you're saying about Valve and Linux gaming...

Quoting: elmapuland the user count didnt changed, i wouldnt call that an sucess, sucess is to expand the marketfrom 0 to tens of millions of units sold (or user count) in a single video game generation.

... but this is absurd. (Financial) success is when you're earning more money than your investing. Or the same, when you're paying yourself a decent wage.

ok, let me try to explain again with other words.
when it came to thirdy parties (aka, games and end user softwares) sucess=earning more money than you are investing.
but when it comes to platforms? (aka console/hardware, operating systems)
you need to make sure that the entire ecosystem is profitable, and that is not the case with linux desktop,and with that, there is no middle term.
of course not all thirdy parties will make profit in any platform, but there is a difference between your target audience being on one platform ( playstation or switch for japanese games) and you not making money on other platform (xbox) due to it or you not being able to make money on it because there arent enough people using it to be profitable for most companies.

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