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Looks like you can now run Linux on the Nintendo Switch
8 May 2018 at 1:02 pm UTC
windows indeed cut the support for old softwares/games (that takes time because microsoft understand that killing the backward compatibility may harm then)
you cant play old dos games on windows anymore, indeed.
except that you can!
dosbox has an version for windows, gog even uses it to sell old games on windows.
so even if windows lose backward compatibility, gamers will be able to play their games anyway, some one will port something like wine to windows, or companies will port their old games and the worse part is, even games distributed with dosbox emulation may not officialy support linux (even if the game is still playable, people considering use it will stay away thinking that the game cant run, or new users will have trouble making it run)
8 May 2018 at 1:02 pm UTC
Quoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: elmapulthings will never end at this rate, its a "cat-and-mouse game"Welll . . . Wine will never be perfect for current Windows. But over time the proportion of software that was written for Windows-before-the-present gradually increases, and current Windows seems to be getting worse at backwards compatibility, probably deliberately for certain tactical reasons which I think may be mistaken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse
just like wine will never be perfect for the same reason.
So in theory Wine could become approximately perfect for pre-current Windows, and that becomes a more and more important role.
windows indeed cut the support for old softwares/games (that takes time because microsoft understand that killing the backward compatibility may harm then)
you cant play old dos games on windows anymore, indeed.
except that you can!
dosbox has an version for windows, gog even uses it to sell old games on windows.
so even if windows lose backward compatibility, gamers will be able to play their games anyway, some one will port something like wine to windows, or companies will port their old games and the worse part is, even games distributed with dosbox emulation may not officialy support linux (even if the game is still playable, people considering use it will stay away thinking that the game cant run, or new users will have trouble making it run)
Looks like you can now run Linux on the Nintendo Switch
8 May 2018 at 12:45 pm UTC
windows indeed cut the support for old softwares/games (that takes time because microsoft understand that killing the backward compatibility may harm then)
you cant play old dos games on windows anymore, indeed.
except that you can!
dosbox has an version for windows, gog even uses it to sell old games on windows.
so even if windows lose backward compatibility, gamers will be able to play their games anyway, some one will port something like wine to windows, or companies will port their old games and the worse part is, even games distributed with dosbox emulation may not officialy support linux (even if the game is still playable, people considering use it will stay away thinking that the game cant run, or new users will have trouble making it run)
8 May 2018 at 12:45 pm UTC
Quoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: elmapulthings will never end at this rate, its a "cat-and-mouse game"Welll . . . Wine will never be perfect for current Windows. But over time the proportion of software that was written for Windows-before-the-present gradually increases, and current Windows seems to be getting worse at backwards compatibility, probably deliberately for certain tactical reasons which I think may be mistaken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse
just like wine will never be perfect for the same reason.
So in theory Wine could become approximately perfect for pre-current Windows, and that becomes a more and more important role.
windows indeed cut the support for old softwares/games (that takes time because microsoft understand that killing the backward compatibility may harm then)
you cant play old dos games on windows anymore, indeed.
except that you can!
dosbox has an version for windows, gog even uses it to sell old games on windows.
so even if windows lose backward compatibility, gamers will be able to play their games anyway, some one will port something like wine to windows, or companies will port their old games and the worse part is, even games distributed with dosbox emulation may not officialy support linux (even if the game is still playable, people considering use it will stay away thinking that the game cant run, or new users will have trouble making it run)
Looks like you can now run Linux on the Nintendo Switch
4 May 2018 at 11:24 am UTC
the issue is.
imagine that scenario.
nvidia launch tegra 2 and nintendo launch switch 2, we are still trying to hack the switch 1 to add hardware acceleration, part of the interest disapear because many hackers move to try to hack the switch 2.
tegra 3 and switch 3 launch, and we still cant fully acess the hardware of tegra1/switch1, t2/s2, and start with the hacking of t3/s3...
things will never end at this rate, its a "cat-and-mouse game"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse
just like wine will never be perfect for the same reason.
i remember back in the days of DS, i installed linux on it expecting to do cool things with it, but by the time that i found something usefull to do on it, it was already to late, i already had an android phone to run those tasks and many others as well as to develop for and have the oportunity to make money in the process (instead of code as a hobby)
i dont want the same to happen here.
4 May 2018 at 11:24 am UTC
Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: elmapulQuoting: ShmerlIt's just a Tegra tablet with some Nintendo DRM mess attached. So once DRM is broken, Linux should be runnable :)
by that point the hardware may be outdated , we may have tegra 2, with switch 2...
It's a Tegra X1, pretty decent. Apparently ALL Tegra X1 SoC are vulnerable to the hack that allows Linux to be installed on the Switch. Yup, the Tesla cars also use this same SoC.
the issue is.
imagine that scenario.
nvidia launch tegra 2 and nintendo launch switch 2, we are still trying to hack the switch 1 to add hardware acceleration, part of the interest disapear because many hackers move to try to hack the switch 2.
tegra 3 and switch 3 launch, and we still cant fully acess the hardware of tegra1/switch1, t2/s2, and start with the hacking of t3/s3...
things will never end at this rate, its a "cat-and-mouse game"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse
just like wine will never be perfect for the same reason.
i remember back in the days of DS, i installed linux on it expecting to do cool things with it, but by the time that i found something usefull to do on it, it was already to late, i already had an android phone to run those tasks and many others as well as to develop for and have the oportunity to make money in the process (instead of code as a hobby)
i dont want the same to happen here.
Looks like you can now run Linux on the Nintendo Switch
3 May 2018 at 6:49 am UTC
by that point the hardware may be outdated , we may have tegra 2, with switch 2...
3 May 2018 at 6:49 am UTC
Quoting: ShmerlIt's just a Tegra tablet with some Nintendo DRM mess attached. So once DRM is broken, Linux should be runnable :)
by that point the hardware may be outdated , we may have tegra 2, with switch 2...
The Linux-powered Atari VCS will accept pre-orders May 30th, shipping next year
3 May 2018 at 6:22 am UTC
3 May 2018 at 6:22 am UTC
to be fair, i still have one hope.
samsung is trying to push hibrid phones that can act as computers, by supporting desktop apps on their phones.
google is bringing android apps to the chromebook and linux softwares.
those too are strong enough to compete with sony and microsoft.
if Atari made an partnership with Google, Samsung, Valve, AMD at least one of those, so they can make an console under the atari brand and earn most of the profit, then there is hope, they have the money, atari has an brand that can push some aditional sales.
still, its very unlikely that this will hapen for many reasons, first off, when you sell an console, you expect to see part of the profit from games sold, the more people to share the profits, the less revenue for each company, so those companies have no reason to associate thenselfs with an small one that cant bring much to the table, or to launch an platform that you can install the games using other stores or without even buying the console.
why would they do that?
samsung is trying to push hibrid phones that can act as computers, by supporting desktop apps on their phones.
google is bringing android apps to the chromebook and linux softwares.
those too are strong enough to compete with sony and microsoft.
if Atari made an partnership with Google, Samsung, Valve, AMD at least one of those, so they can make an console under the atari brand and earn most of the profit, then there is hope, they have the money, atari has an brand that can push some aditional sales.
still, its very unlikely that this will hapen for many reasons, first off, when you sell an console, you expect to see part of the profit from games sold, the more people to share the profits, the less revenue for each company, so those companies have no reason to associate thenselfs with an small one that cant bring much to the table, or to launch an platform that you can install the games using other stores or without even buying the console.
why would they do that?
The Linux-powered Atari VCS will accept pre-orders May 30th, shipping next year
3 May 2018 at 6:15 am UTC
https://store.steampowered.com/app/400020/Atari_Vault/
100 games for 10 dollars, that is how much those games worth nowadays.
for ps4
https://www.amazon.com/Atari-Vault-Online-Game-Code/dp/B01D93X3QW
ps4 out of any sale cost 280:
https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-500GB-Console/dp/B01M0RU6LY/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1525326288&sr=1-4&keywords=playstation+4
now, just think what an regular consumer would think:
280 and you play all the multiplatform games from the current generation + ps4 exclusives.
or you can buy an used one for less, or wait for a sale, and the price comes
+10 dolars more and you play those atari classics
ps4 and xbox one are geting all the multiplatform games from the current gen, but you will bet your money on the atari box that no one knows nothing about... really?
i fooled my self with the steam machines, i lied to my self, i thought, ok, there is no many reasons to people to buy one, ok there is no actual advantage beside the fact that it as an superior system with bad ports that make it perform worses, but still maybe valve will do something to solve that?
fourtunatelly i didnt spent my money (i didnt had any anyway and it didnt even sold on my country.
i fooled my self once, i created false hope and will not do it again, and i recomend you to do the same.
the only people who care about this thing are us linux users, yet, this will change nothing, we will keep receiving the games that we are receiving, a few AAA and many indies, we will just waste money in hardware that could be better spent in software.
looks like companies have realzed that linux users think they are so smarth but dont they are so smarth as they think and are willing to spend money in wetever scam or piece of shit they throw at us because we are desperated to see linux grow.
do yourself a favor, stop lying to you self and creating false hope until they reveal the specs.
just think about it:
if instead of an console running linux, it were an console runing windows, would you care about it?
or an original OS?
there is any reason that you want this thing to be a sucess or think it will be despiste the fact that it run linux?
Atari dont have money to do dumping until their competition crash, they dont have money to make exclusives or subsidize support from thirdyparties to reduce their risk to loss money in case the console flop, nor to market it, nor to even make the hardware, hell they had to make an crowdfunding to make an game:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/01/23/rollercoaster-tycoon-seeks-crowdfunding-for-switch-version
they dont have 10.000 dollars to make/port an game.
just wake up!
we are being made of fools, and we cant see it because "it runs linux, of course it will be a sucess"
3 May 2018 at 6:15 am UTC
Quoting: kneekooA new PS4 is more expensive than $200. But the PS4 doesn't come with over 100 games, so buying the Atari VCS is a lot of fun out of the box, compared to the other popular consoles.200 is the pre-order price, it may cost even more in the final relase (otherwise why would anyone pre order)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/400020/Atari_Vault/
100 games for 10 dollars, that is how much those games worth nowadays.
for ps4
https://www.amazon.com/Atari-Vault-Online-Game-Code/dp/B01D93X3QW
ps4 out of any sale cost 280:
https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-500GB-Console/dp/B01M0RU6LY/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1525326288&sr=1-4&keywords=playstation+4
now, just think what an regular consumer would think:
280 and you play all the multiplatform games from the current generation + ps4 exclusives.
or you can buy an used one for less, or wait for a sale, and the price comes
+10 dolars more and you play those atari classics
ps4 and xbox one are geting all the multiplatform games from the current gen, but you will bet your money on the atari box that no one knows nothing about... really?
i fooled my self with the steam machines, i lied to my self, i thought, ok, there is no many reasons to people to buy one, ok there is no actual advantage beside the fact that it as an superior system with bad ports that make it perform worses, but still maybe valve will do something to solve that?
fourtunatelly i didnt spent my money (i didnt had any anyway and it didnt even sold on my country.
i fooled my self once, i created false hope and will not do it again, and i recomend you to do the same.
the only people who care about this thing are us linux users, yet, this will change nothing, we will keep receiving the games that we are receiving, a few AAA and many indies, we will just waste money in hardware that could be better spent in software.
looks like companies have realzed that linux users think they are so smarth but dont they are so smarth as they think and are willing to spend money in wetever scam or piece of shit they throw at us because we are desperated to see linux grow.
do yourself a favor, stop lying to you self and creating false hope until they reveal the specs.
just think about it:
if instead of an console running linux, it were an console runing windows, would you care about it?
or an original OS?
there is any reason that you want this thing to be a sucess or think it will be despiste the fact that it run linux?
Atari dont have money to do dumping until their competition crash, they dont have money to make exclusives or subsidize support from thirdyparties to reduce their risk to loss money in case the console flop, nor to market it, nor to even make the hardware, hell they had to make an crowdfunding to make an game:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/01/23/rollercoaster-tycoon-seeks-crowdfunding-for-switch-version
they dont have 10.000 dollars to make/port an game.
just wake up!
we are being made of fools, and we cant see it because "it runs linux, of course it will be a sucess"
The Linux-powered Atari VCS will accept pre-orders May 30th, shipping next year
1 May 2018 at 10:18 pm UTC
you dont get the point, i dont know the number of transitors and i didnt specify if it as 2cm² or 2cm³ either.
the issue is, there is nothing that you can do in an small device that you cant do better on a bigger one, they could make something more powerfull but instead chose to make something compact.
this thing is not what going to give us more triple A games, the multiplatform Triple A that we are missing from the current gen, so what is the point of this thing? an indie box for the price of an ps4? thanks but no, if i want to help linux i will spend those 200 U$D in games instead of this thing that contribute nothing to us.
there is no atari fanboy out there anymore after so many time without an new console and with the miss use that they did with they franchise in an atempt to come back to the modern generation.
do you really think that atari can compete with sony, ms and nintendo?
with an smaller device launched in the midle of the generation?
1 May 2018 at 10:18 pm UTC
Quoting: kneekooQuoting: elmapulthe console is small.I didn't see "just kidding" anywhere in your post. Maybe you forgot to add it. :P
there is no space for heat dissipation, and eve if it have enough space, it dont have space for many transitors.
if you can fit 1000 transitors i 1cm, you can fit 2000 in 2cm.
small device=weak, this thing will flop, everything is saying that its a scam
The ASUS Tinker Board (just an example) is a single board computer that can do 4K @ 30fps and the board's footprint is as big as a credit card. This is 2018. It was 1974 when we could fit 2000 transistors per square cm. In a computer the size of the Atari VCS we can certainly fit enough technology to do significantly better than the Tinker Board.
you dont get the point, i dont know the number of transitors and i didnt specify if it as 2cm² or 2cm³ either.
the issue is, there is nothing that you can do in an small device that you cant do better on a bigger one, they could make something more powerfull but instead chose to make something compact.
this thing is not what going to give us more triple A games, the multiplatform Triple A that we are missing from the current gen, so what is the point of this thing? an indie box for the price of an ps4? thanks but no, if i want to help linux i will spend those 200 U$D in games instead of this thing that contribute nothing to us.
there is no atari fanboy out there anymore after so many time without an new console and with the miss use that they did with they franchise in an atempt to come back to the modern generation.
do you really think that atari can compete with sony, ms and nintendo?
with an smaller device launched in the midle of the generation?
The Linux-powered Atari VCS will accept pre-orders May 30th, shipping next year
1 May 2018 at 10:10 pm UTC
1 May 2018 at 10:10 pm UTC
" The Atari VCS platform will offer support for 4K resolution, HDR and 60FPS content, "
in other words, 4k videos not gaming, or retro gaming in 4k...
in other words, 4k videos not gaming, or retro gaming in 4k...
The Linux-powered Atari VCS will accept pre-orders May 30th, shipping next year
1 May 2018 at 12:07 am UTC
1 May 2018 at 12:07 am UTC
the console is small.
there is no space for heat dissipation, and eve if it have enough space, it dont have space for many transitors.
if you can fit 1000 transitors i 1cm, you can fit 2000 in 2cm.
small device=weak, this thing will flop, everything is saying that its a scam
there is no space for heat dissipation, and eve if it have enough space, it dont have space for many transitors.
if you can fit 1000 transitors i 1cm, you can fit 2000 in 2cm.
small device=weak, this thing will flop, everything is saying that its a scam
AMD has announced 'Radeon-Rays' an open source ray tracing SDK using Vulkan
29 April 2018 at 10:49 am UTC
UWP also works on xbox
29 April 2018 at 10:49 am UTC
Quoting: etonbearsQuoting: elmapulQuoting: etonbearsBest not to use UWP at all. Neither the architecture nor the market seem compelling to me.
we can avoid UWP all as we want, but how to convince developers to not use it?
Actually, I meant that comment from a developer perspective. The UWP development model is inferior to the Win32/64 model for desktop and laptop computers, where Microsoft are still reasonably strong. The whole point of UWP is to provide an equivalent to the iOS development model for tablets and phones, but that is a market in which Microsoft is almost invisible.
UWP also works on xbox
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