Quoting: AnxiousInfusionMuch needed as any emulators for older consoles run flawlessly but, once you get into ~6th generation console territory

what emulator do you use for n64? mupen stoped evolving (except for android mupen) and there are a lot of games unplayable on it.

project64 dont have an native version (and emulating an emulator is not an ideal solution.

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" What exactly should Linux or the distributions do to support them anyway?"
i dont know, maybe stop reinventing the whell trying to argue what DE or graphic display is the best and join efforts a little (it took years to canonical to stop they NIH syndrom and drop years of effort on mir and unity)

" You can't run either without huge resources and some serious infrastructure in place. You won't see an indie Siri-clone any time soon."
actualy, we have, mycroft.
but if we want to compete, we have to target android (and maybe windows).
just look at the firefoxOS, they failed, but at least they had an strong brand to at least try, if you ask the average joe, what Firefox is, they will know its a browser, if you ask what ubuntu is, you will have luck if they think its a food.
maybe we should stop doing over 2000 distros and focus on a market that we can actualy grow and make money, then try to strike again at the OS market.


" Financial success at the cost of ethical integrity (or our privacy) just isn't worth supporting. Also, what is this elusive "we" you keep bringing up?"
i dont think we should completely give up on privacy, take a look at the firefox aproach, he have the option to turn on/off telemetry.
if you turn it off, you can have your privacy, if you turn it on, you can help improving the browser, not only for yourself but for those who have it turned off.
ubuntu tried something similiar with amazon, but it was set to on by default, and the people didnt shut up until the option was completely removed.

"No, that wasn't my point. My point was that these technologies aren't being pushed by Google and Apple because they're useful for us as consumers at this point. "
of course they arent at this point, the tecnhnology has to evolve from something, we wouldnt have cars before someone invent the whell.
in the future Ai may be as ubiquitous as keyboards and toucscreens are nowadays, and hololens is that kind of thing that make you realize you're living in the future.

if you dont want you privacy to be lost due to this kind of tech, that is why you should move now and help to fund alternatives.

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"I sure can ignore any tech I'm not interested in. It's a handy skill, leaves time for fun and games. "
i dont even know what this means.
in any case, if your boss require you to know something, you better know it.
and its not about you, its about another missed oportunity to make the linux desktop rise.


"The tech is still at the questionably useful gimmick level, and its greatest advancement since the first primitive voice control craze in the nineties is how efficiently it ignores the user's privacy and collects data for our corporate overlords."
Like it or not, the best way to know what commands the users want is by analysing what they were trying to say.
that is why we cant have nice things.
we have to respect the user privacy, we have to keep the code open source allow the user to redistribute it, we cant...
everything that is profitable, we cant do.
except sell suport for companys, because end users dont pay for such a things.

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". Shader caches for games launched by Steam are placed in separate folders next to their Steam Library folder and are deleted when each game is uninstalled, or when switching drivers or graphics cards. Individual shaders are tracked and catalogued by the Steam servers in preparation for distributing pre-compiled shaders. This tracking can incur slight additional bandwidth use. The system can be disabled by setting the environment variable STEAM_ENABLE_SHADER_CACHE_MANAGEMENT=0"

Shader cache, in other words, once the game was loaded once, it will run (or load( faster the next time you play, right?

" Individual shaders are tracked and catalogued by the Steam servers in preparation for distributing pre-compiled shaders."
in other words, if someone already played the game on your video card , you will not need to run it once, to make it faster the next time, since someone already did that.

i got it right?

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Quoting: Ardje

i used the quote just to notify you that some one replied to you this time.
just take a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N80hzTpglQ

it shows how canonical or other linux vendor can enter in the market of operating systems, and why we cant ignore the AR and voice market

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Quoting: Ardje

Quoting: elmapulwhat??

https://www.polygon.com/features/2017/4/12/15257842/jeri-ellsworth-profile-castar-valve
Jeri Ellsworth is a real hacker. As such she was hired and had a team to research augmented reality and such, making it man-years of research. When Valve concluded that augmented reality would not aid their business, they fired Jeri, and sold her the rights to her teams research for $100 (they couldn't actually legally give it away, so a symbolic $100 was asked).
Jeri is still pursuing her idea of augmented in CastAR, which shows promisse, but also that it barely touches Valves immediate core business.

im not talking about valve investing in AR, i didnt even knew they did that.
i'm talking about microsoft's holo lens, or google glass.
we dont have an alternative for that on linux.

when linux were born, it was too late to try to take the desktop market, we managed to enter in all other markets except the desktop due to the vendor lock-in that microsoft created.

i dont want the linux to lose this market, we are moving to an world were, voice controled Ai (like cortana, ok google, siri) are a trend, the era of machine learning, VR and Ar, i dont want linux to be late for the party again, that is what i'm afraid of.
linux has the bad fame of being an CLI OS (despite the fact that this is not the true anymore) wich is bad seen for people used to the GUI.
still, even that not being true, i see a lot of blog posts trying to teach CLI for the new users as if that would be exciting for then, when we are entering the era of the AR and voice-ai Era, those technologies, if implemented well in the workflow can save time (and time is money).
yes, cli is usefull, and can save time too, but as and end user that was seeing linux for the first time, what made me love it, was compiz, not the CLI.
if we dont have such techs we will be seen as dinosaurs by the new generation of potential users, and as we dont live forever, the marketshare may decrease even more than now.

on android, we have google now, but what about the desktop?

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Quoting: ArdjeThey threw out the man years of augmented reality research, and sold it to the head researcher for $100, who could then continue it in her own company.

what??

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80Although not universally true as crytek and Unreal 4 have linux versions and we have not seen that many games using either engine on linux and there are tons of unreal 4 games.

good point, but if the engines dont support, even the games that do support wouldnt.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuySo, first, even if you say SteamOS "will not" have influence and game developers "will not" target it if no one uses it, this isn't a hypothetical. SteamOS exists now and isn't being used much directly now. So does it have influence, do game developers target it? I think fairly clearly it does and they do.

they target steam runtime, just look at a lot of games that support linux on steam, look at the minimum requirements, it says: Ubuntu version x, not SteamOS version y.

Quoting: Purple Library GuySecond, the Steam runtime? Don't believe I even mentioned it. Forget apples and oranges, and forget comparing--I'm talking about an apple and you're trying to refute me by pretending it's a hammer.

but that is what they're targeting.

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you know how to get more games on linux?
simple, with more engines supporting it.

just look at how many visual novels we have, and the reason for that, is that Renpy became popular and it supports linux.
now, renpy have an proprietary competition with much more features, we gona lose an niche of games if we dont improve it, people will start using other tools to make visual novels and as a result those games will not support linux anymore.

nowadays, unreal, unity, cry engine do support linux, so its easy for small developers to support it, and more likely big developers will.
but nowadays, big developers are doing their own engines instead for some reeason, except for japan.
so the future is uncertain, but one of the most critical things for the linux sucess is engines, the libraries, to support multiplatform

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