Very unexpected to see them choosing PopOS. It looks like the Cosmic desktop is attracting some people already.

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Quoting: emptythevoidNot related to the hackers that demanded nvidia open source their drivers, right?

Either that or IBM/Redhat threw oodles of money at them.

I would guess it's neither. My guess is that it's the rising competition from AMD and now Intel, both of which have their drivers upstreamed in the Linux kernel so it's easier to maintain cloud servers running AMD/Intel than nVidia.

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Quoting: ripperIt's a great step forward. But don't have overly high expectations. Christian's blogpost summarizes it well. This is just the kernel part, and that's just one piece of the puzzle. Also it's not a true community development repo, they'll only add a single commit for each new release dump, i.e. amdvlk-style. It will certainly help things a lot, but it's definitely not on par with AMD/Intel support for Linux. Hopefully Nvidia continues to improve in this direction.

Still worth the excitement, for two reasons:
1- This hopefully improves the integration of the driver with the rest of the system, and result in less bugs and better handling of different use cases outside of rendering 3D graphics (ex: external monitor, prime and reverse prime, external gpus, etc)
2- This should be a huge help in making Nouveau be in a good shape since they can now depend on proper drivers rather than reverse engineering a black box.

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Too bad it's not the 6000 series (the one with RDNA graphics).

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Quoting: 3zekielIt sure seems to be going smooth. Compare to the time of steam machines, we have clear momentum and hype, I am confident millions will sell.
I don´t think the number of Desktop linux user is going to skyrocket, but I expect that as the steam deck gains popularity, and once valve releases SteamOS on the desktop, we will see more pc-building enthusiast go for it. I would'nt be surprised that we rise above the 5% mark in 2023. Not a very big number yes, but MacOS managed to have more ports than we did with half that - and combined with steam deck that would begin to give us a big enough market.

There is no way the Linux market share can hit 5% in only 1~2 years. 5% in a PC landscape is a huge number and there is no way Valve can produce this much Steam Decks in just 2 years. And desktop/laptop Linux machines won't change much since there are still no ready made Linux gaming machines that are good enough to sell in masses (and most people would just use whatever the system comes with).

However, Linux doesn't need to hit a percentage higher than other platforms; it only needs to hit a percentage where it becomes a profitable platform for all developers to not ignore, and that seems to be well within reach in the next year or two.

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Quoting: denyasisValve is definitely in the Extend phase of EEE for Linux and wine, and I can see at some point they may consider making the jump to Extinguish (pairing steam off of Linux into it's own thing), but I don't see that as likely or feasible.

1). They lack the resources. Valve is 100% dependant on the free labor of the open source communities. While they've done great work, most of the heavy lifting was done long ago by others.
2). Linux being open source, it simply can't be tossed out, the way Microsoft or Apple can get rid of stuff since it's all in house.

You forgot the most important point, which is that Valve's business model depends on selling games through Steam, not selling the hardware. So, it's in their best interest that the games that work on Steam Deck also works on regular Linux as that simply means more market for them. This is why Valve is trying to support as much platforms as possible just as we recently saw with ChromeOS.

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What a bunch of hacks. One can only wonder about the performance and memory impact of this. Google could've simply made ChromeOS a regular Linux distro and built their own custom DE for it, just like Valve did, instead of this mess.

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Did they mention if all those components are open source?

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The most polished open source game, by far.

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Quoting: DribbleondoSurprised Hitman 2 isn't on that list; hell Hitman 3, considering both run under Proton pretty well.

Just a matter of getting someone to verify it. I'm pretty sure the number of titles that work well on the Deck is at least 10 times this list.

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