Doesn't look like something Valve will lose their sleep for, since those are all games released more than a decade ago and they were sharing the assets anyway.

Now, leak some prototype of HL3 and we will get some reactions.

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QuoteWhile it does offer Native Linux support, I use the word "support" quite loosely here. It has a Linux version, but the developers don't actually seem to test it. The current version still gives you a black screen instead of an actual intro and main menu. It's an easy fix, setting "-force-vulkan" as a launch option for the game, something I told the developer about quite a few times but they haven't bothered to fix it.

That is my fear with Steam Play. If a developer can strait ignore bug reports to the native Linux port, imagine how they will treat complains from people using SP.

Is not every one of them of course, I saw plenty of them caring about SP bugs, but still, don't give me confidence bugs will be fixed after I lost my refund period.

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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: M@GOidI decided to jump out of this game of having a top PC, to play AAA games at max settings a while ago. Now what I want is a efficient machine that runs cool on stock coolers.

Things started to became too repetitive (again) a decade ago, with most big-name games recycling the same ideas with more beautiful graphics. For example, I didn't finished the last 2 Tomb Riders. Felt like I was playing a DLC of the first game. Call of Duty fell off my radar after the first Black Ops. I'm not a competitive player (hate cheaters and annoying looser kids), so their emphasis on multiplayer did nothing for me.

Indie games at last try something new, since in a ocean of them, is do something different or die. And when they commit the same sin of recycling old gameplay like big studios do, I didn't need a powerful PC to play them nor do I need to pay full price plus a kidney in cash-grab schemes.

If I feel the itch to play AAA games, I still had a couple dozen from few years ago, that play very nice in my current "poor gamer" PC.

Pretty much the same here.
I have my PC spec'd good enough to play older AAA titles like Batman Arkham city, LOTR @ full settings 1440p (60hz is fine for me for these titles). The only issue is that even my Ryzen CPU (65w TDP + max undervolt) + Nvidia GPU is not efficient enough (add in some fans and primitive RGB). PC's for everything outside of gaming just aren't efficient enough, were talking 80w + just to stream video content, browse the web, basic image editing etc.. when a sub 10w mini pc can do this just fine. I have seen 95w when watching video content on my dual monitor setup and that's all im doing at the time.

One good thing about the last gen Ryzen though, is that they are quiet efficient at the lower end if you just want indie gaming. Something like a 5600g running integrated vega graphics is good enough. You can build a good all rounder for not much money. I hope there are equally efficient RDNA2 / 3 APU's in future.

I was testing my other machine with the 5600g recently and playing Stardew valley the entire PC was using less than 30W (21w at one point) and completely silent. If i had used my main rig with a dedicated GPU + faster CPU it would of probably been quite a bit more for doing the exact same thing.

I almost got into the APU road on my last upgrade, a couple months ago. Had AMD released one with a RDNA2 iGPU last year, I probably would had got one.

But only in a traditional setup, no Mini-PC. I wanted the flexibility of adding a discrete GPU down the road.

I was certain to get the best motherboard powered (sub 75W) AMD card (because Linux opensource drivers), but that would meant I would be stuck at the same performance level since 2014, when I got a very power hungry, factory overclocked R9 290. Since I wanted a bit more performance to play American/Euro Truck Simulator at a locked 60fps, I caved and got a RX6600. It normally consumes up to 100W (~15W decoding videos) in games and was a nice jump from what I had before, and even had AV1 decoding support, which is nice for me since I watch a lot of long YT videos.

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While its nice they will officially launch a app to free the controller, I believe someone would eventually had found a way to enable BT on those controllers, probably even without help from the dev team.

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I decided to jump out of this game of having a top PC, to play AAA games at max settings a while ago. Now what I want is a efficient machine that runs cool on stock coolers.

Things started to became too repetitive (again) a decade ago, with most big-name games recycling the same ideas with more beautiful graphics. For example, I didn't finished the last 2 Tomb Riders. Felt like I was playing a DLC of the first game. Call of Duty fell off my radar after the first Black Ops. I'm not a competitive player (hate cheaters and annoying looser kids), so their emphasis on multiplayer did nothing for me.

Indie games at last try something new, since in a ocean of them, is do something different or die. And when they commit the same sin of recycling old gameplay like big studios do, I didn't need a powerful PC to play them nor do I need to pay full price plus a kidney in cash-grab schemes.

If I feel the itch to play AAA games, I still had a couple dozen from few years ago, that play very nice in my current "poor gamer" PC.

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Quoting: M@GOidF710

Really? I've had to jump through a lot of hoops to get Lego Batman (without Steam) to recognize my wired Logitech gamepad.

Edit: To clarify: I've always assumed that there is no gamepad that works in every game.

I also said "nearly perfect" :-)

So you found another game to stain the reputation of the Logitech gamepads. I had encountered only one game in my 200+ library that didn't recognized it, but worked fine with the XB360.

Also, the only game that didn't worked with the XB360 (wired), the undisputed champion of compatibility, is Grow Home, but it had a crocked Linux port anyway. Only way to make a gamepad work with it was to use Steam Input to send keyboard presses to it.

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Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: M@GOidNot what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

Looks like you got a lemon, since this is the first time I see someone saying those things about the Pro 2. Or maybe you had a very high standard for noise? In my collection, the Xbox360 is the quietest. Is this the one you had before?

Personally, I like light triggers, since this is the norm nowadays and I cannot go back for the very hard ones in the XBox 360 and Logitech F710.

Compatibility of gamepads nowadays is a hit or miss unfortunately, since some games do not implement Steam Input nor SDL2. Of all my controllers, only the XB360 and F710 had near perfect compatibility. The Dualshock4, Xbone and Steam Controller all had some (or multiple) games that refuse to recognize them.

As for the M30, while I do like the Saturn gamepad format (I also have one and the Dreamcast one with a adapter!), I do prefer the Nintendo D-pad more.

So in the end I think I will wait. I have too much gamepads already and the next one must check all the right points, otherwise I will stick with what I already have.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Lofty

Quoting: M@GOidNot what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

I actually had to double-check which gamepad you're writing about, because it's so weird how much our experience differs. The Pro 2 has been hands down the best controller I've ever owned. The buttons are responsive and quiet. The triggers aren't very stiff but they provide just the right amount of resistance for fine control. The D-pad isn't too bad either. And compatibility in X-input mode (with Steam Input and outside of steam) has been excellent. Maybe we don't play the same games?

The paddles on the bottom don't work, that's true. But you can only set them to double as face buttons even on Windows apparently. Doesn't sound very useful. And about rumble, I'll take your word for that one. I've never seen the point of controller vibration so I always disable it.

The bottom paddles are there so you don't need to leave the right analog stick to press a face button. They work great in FPS games. I have them on the Steam Controller, BTW.

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Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

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It is being review bombed on Steam. I sure will do my part to help this Nvidia marketing tool to sell 1600 dollar cards...

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