Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: Purple Library GuyGood lord. Was there fallout? I'd be out for scalp if someone did that to me.

Quoting: slaapliedjehttps://www.engadget.com/ubisoft-is-deleting-the-crew-from-players-libraries-reminding-us-we-own-nothing-165328083.html

I'm not even sure how that's legal, but definitely is a reminder to people that you don't own the games. And why DRM is ultimately anti-consumer.

And it happened amidst a campaign relating to both this game and the larger issue! (There was a very paid-off-sounding follow-up here, too.)

Alas, I haven't seen too much fallout from it, myself. If you guys don't mind me being a little blunt for a moment: Gamers are usually terrible at organising, and everyone who accepted cosmetic horse-armour is to blame for the situation we now have today - they were warned about the slippery slope and refused to listen.

I totally agree with this. Especially ones who have a massive library on Steam who tend to forget what they've bought about 15m after they buy it...

- Guilty here! I don't even know why I buy anything on Steam anymore, I have more than I'll ever play, not to mention 'retro' systems I can get entire libraries for... and yet, I end up playing games like Joust, Asteroids, Yars: Recharged, etc. Though recently I've been playing Dead Island 2. Wonderful game.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: BlackBloodRumThink this is bad? Wait until those "requires online to play" games start getting this. Not only will they be de-listed, but they will also be unplayable.

See also: Ubisoft's The Crew, which was not only delisted, but they then went and removed it from the libraries of everyone who had purchased it, too.

Good lord. Was there fallout? I'd be out for scalp if someone did that to me.

https://www.engadget.com/ubisoft-is-deleting-the-crew-from-players-libraries-reminding-us-we-own-nothing-165328083.html

I'm not even sure how that's legal, but definitely is a reminder to people that you don't own the games. And why DRM is ultimately anti-consumer.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczDesktop Linux support officially would be a nice hat tip too. I recall Aspyr was (or is?) amongst Linux supporters.

Gaming via Proton on Linux is actually Linux native gaming; calls and commands are turned into Linux understandable form!

Sort of... It's more like how I can read the original Odyssey by Homer... but only by pulling out my phone and running the translate app via a camera over it. Sometimes it gets a little janky and wrong words will pop up, then change around so the sentence structure will be correct for English, but it's still going to sit in a closed book as Greek... I wouldn't consider that native either.

That of course is different than emulation, where that would be me plugging a Greek dictionary chip into my brain so that I can read the original text.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeIt'd be nice if there were a folder where game saves were put by standard.

OOH, that's a Wine specific problem actually.
Standard that stuff is on windows set in user\Appdata and in linux in user/.local, but wine maintains for each prefix its own Appdata.

The real issue is each game dev can put stuff wherever they want, XDG is just a guideline

FOSS apps mostly adhere to it but closed source apps (like most games) we can't fix unless each app's original dev fixes it... which is an unrealistic expectation for tens of thousands of games, many released then forgotten by their devs, some actually orphaned, etc

See this for an idea how bad it can be:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1026977/need-to-clean-user-home-folder-and-organize-game-folders-with-saves-configs-e

In this regard, it's a shame Valve never put their weight in to ask game devs do better, or to create a simple way to remap the game's savefile paths into something else that's standard for all games

they do know the savefile paths steam cloud sync must aim at, so...

in a sense, proton actually helps keep saves in a single folder... along the rest of the proton prefix for each game, sure, but at least it makes for a cleaner home folder and for an easier manual backup target

Even the AppData thing for ages wasn't really standard. Some games would install in C:\ directly with all the things in there. Then you have those that would prefer everything under their publisher name... so you end up with AppData/Activision/Pitfall, or whatever.

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Quoting: Eike

Quote2002 is calling.

I still want my 2015 back though...

My friend and I decided we want the 90s back. Especially if we got to keep our current salaries with the cost of everything from the 90s...

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Quoting: KimyrielleI wonder why a company with as much leverage as Microsoft even agrees to licensing like that. Why game studios that large don't insist on non-expiring per-project licensing is beyond me.

For racing games, I can almost guarantee it is because the car companies want people to 'ooh and aah' about their newer vehicles.

Music companies definitely have everyone else by the short and curlies though.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: slaapliedjeWeird, I wonder why they relaunched the Infogrames brand. I don't think it was ever terribly popular.

I may be misremembering, but last time this came up around here I seem to recall someone noting that what is now called Atari was actually originally Infogrames, who acquired the Atari IP and renamed themselves, or something like that. So I figure some of the old Infogrames hands are nostalgic and wanted their original company to exist again.

Yeah, it kind of went... Nolan's Atari... Warner Communication's Atari, Jack Tramiel's Atari, Hasbro's Atari Interactive, Infogrames' Atari... Then some shifts around and now they actually have a CEO who gives a shit and is making all the Right Moves. But hey, they have a Linux based console that is still pretty awesome, they just released Neo Sprint on Steam (it's been on the VCS for a while, and the Steam version I believe only handles 4 players while you can play 8 locally on the VCS? I'll have to look that up again to be sure...)

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Quoting: slaapliedjeWeird, I wonder why they relaunched the Infogrames brand. I don't think it was ever terribly popular.

On another note, if you've never played Surgeon Simulator in VR, you're missing out!

"Infogrames" was a sign of quality during the C64 and Amiga times...

The only game I actually remember off hand that they published was Drakhen, which was cool looking, but I never did get around to playing it.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeWhich makes me sad, as that is ONE feature I use ALL the time (the old X11 highlight/paste with middle mouse button) that is non-existent on every other operating system, and Wayland seems to be against it being a thing...

So I just tried this out, and at least in KDE Wayland, middle-click to paste something highlighted works fine.

Yeah, it seems buggy on older Qt files, and certain other apps I've tried it with.

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Weird, I wonder why they relaunched the Infogrames brand. I don't think it was ever terribly popular.

On another note, if you've never played Surgeon Simulator in VR, you're missing out!

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