Quoting: ShmerlSo if not 32-bit libraries, there must be another way to play them, before dropping such support. And a way that doesn't perform like garbage.

I agree with that. But I doubt that there will be serious efforts being made to look for alternative solutions as long as there isn't some...gentle pressure applied. If people are made to believe that legacy support will be a part of mainstream distros for all eternity, it won't happen. Humans don't do anything without a compelling reason. Which is why I suggested a grace period long enough to make it happen, but people should understand that one day this stuff is going to be retired from mainstream distros.

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Quoting: KimyrielleIn all honesty, 32 bit stuff DOES need to go at some point. I mean, for how long is Linux supposed to carry on that old baggage?

No, thanks. This isn't about clients, but about a ton of games that will be unplayable without it. Until there is another solution (with adequate performance), it shouldn't go, that's very clear.

Seriously, in say 5 years from now on, who'd still want to play 32 bit games when most gamers consider a 5 year old game a museum piece? Yes, I get it, there will be SOME that do, like SOME still play C64 games on an emulator - but I'd wager that group relates in about the same way to Linux users as a base group as Linux users relate to Windows users: A tiny minority. I don't think it's too much asked for to tell this group to take over maintenance of needed legacy 32 bit libraries, if they want to keep playing decades old games. I just feel that Canonical's resources could be used more productively than for keeping alive stone-age software. I am pretty sure interested people could come with some creative solutions how to keep these old games running the same way C64 games and Amiga games can still be played. Change isn't the end of the world.

Quoting: ElectricPrismOkay. Then. Lets just obsolete 32-bit, 64-bit and switch to source only distros like Gentoo then. Because that's the only way we are going to end the cycle of obsoleting 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit, 128-bit 256-bit etc...

Not that there would be a main-stream use-case for 128 bit processors, or ever will be. There is a reason why they aren't made, you know?

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In all honesty, 32 bit stuff DOES need to go at some point. I mean, for how long is Linux supposed to carry on that old baggage?

That Steam (which is one of the most important Linux applications there is, and is maintained by a multi-billion dollar business) STILL doesn't have a 64 bit client is quite frankly unforgivable.

I would really think they should agree on a reasonable grace period and then elbow people into finally updating their legacy 32 bit apps. If after that date, people still -really- insist on running decades-old software or even older hardware, they can still maintain and build these packages themselves. It's open source software, after all.

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SotTR seems to be the only noticeable (as in AAA) game on that list. Oh well, I guess we're off the radar for big budget games again. :S

*hugs Proton and plays them anyway*

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Quoting: heidi.wengerWhy would i ever use Discord over say Riot ? Discord is starting to treat its Linux users like the good old Microsoft and their Skype huh

Same reason why (almost) every business in the world is using MS Office: Because everyone else does! Good luck finding a guild/clan these days NOT forcing you to use Discord...

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Funny how quick Indie developers are with abandoning us, as soon as they get bigger and more famous. :S

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Does anyone know if they plan to add support for the Steam Controller in the next version?

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Quoting: BeamboomUnfortunately it's guys like this who pretty much destroy the entire crowdfunding model. I haven't funded a project in who knows how long now. And it's not because there hasn't been any who looked good on paper.

Same. Well, technically -this- particular story wouldn't deter me all by itself. It looked like a perfect storm of bad things coming together to create this failure. It doesn't look malicious to me at all. These guys were apparently NOT like some devs on Kickstarter who promise supporting every single platform in the world to draw in more crowdfunding money, just to literally write some variant of "Nah, we don't care about you and never did, because you're not Windows" after taking their cash. It's THESE people that made me stop funding games.

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Just out of genuine curiosity, is there ever a good reason NOT to use the development branch? I have heard of rare cases, where newer versions of WINE break games that older versions can run, but a) these things seem to get fixed rather quick with a follow-up patch, and b) usually involve consecutive versions of the development branch, not stable vs development.

Usually, with WINE, newer = better. At least in my experience.

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Nice article! I bought that game when it launched, but never really played it much. Maybe it's time to dust whatever rust-bucket of a ship I had in ED and take her on a ride! :D

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