Quoting: rustybroomhandleThey originally announced the Mac port and that was it. Then only after Linux users started begging they said they were going to do a feasibility analysis. The Linux version was not intended from the beginning.

This is a simple recount of how it happened - not intended to be hostile, and no need to be defensive about it.

It took some digging but the official CIV 6 twitter specifically stated Linux as a platform they did that on 11th May 2016

https://twitter.com/CivGame/status/730440440437055490

Granted that was a s much as I could find "easily".

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Quoting: LeopardI asked for that because Feral planning to add Vulkan support for Deus Ex:MD.

Are they?; I thought they had mentioned that the first Vulkan game from them would come in the first half of 2017 but it wasnt Deus Ex, though they may revisit it later on to see.

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Quoting: FredOIt runs just a "bit" better with Vulkan ;-)

OpenGL: 71.8 Ave FPS
Vulkan: 157.2 Ave FPS

Vulkan can't come fast enough to Linux gaming!

Jesus!! Thats one hell of an improvement from just using Vulkan!

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Quoting: camocelticIt's gotten to the point where I've almost stopped caring for announcements of Linux ports from anyone that isn't Feral, Aspyr, or Ethan Lee because it's almost inevitable that the Linux port gets majorly delayed or canceled outright.

I would add Paradox to that list as well, everygame they promised would have a linux release has had one (Day-1 as well)

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I really find this sort of behaviour bordering on fraudulent, and the only reason I dont say its completely fraudulent is that they may have not intended it to go this way.

However to promise a release platform then on a crowdfunding site in order to ellicit pledges only to pull that from the lineup furter down the line is appalling behaviour in my opinion.

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Quoting: lelouchAlso just annoyed from all these fanboys, don't realizing they are - I just asked for a real reasons (besides "its popular, so I use it, too" ), nothing more, but for most got avoiding (expected) and flaming - they just give wrong believes, nothing about to see they made there mind up on there own - that, I think, is sad!

OK so I guess it was pointless me posting my lengthy reply about my reasons for selecting my distro,with reasons because you have decided it doesn't fit your narrative of being an uninformed "fanboy" so just ignored it.

Anyway that's the last on this for me, I come here for gaming news not to be berated for making the "wrong" choice on distro!

EDIT:

Quoting: liamdaweGuys, we have a forum for a reason, seriously, take x vs y distro there

Gah saw this after my last post.. I promise I will be good now :P

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Quoting: khanseiYou can drop the get you know :)

sudo apt update 

You'll need to get use to it but its much faster on a daily basis !

I know; i usually use just apt myself. However as upthread we were having a discussion about Ubuntu being an 'easy' distro I thought I would use the longer way on purpose :P

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Quoting: edddeduckferal

Quoting: liamdawePlease do not bring distro wars here, they are not welcome. All it does it get people riled up.

This seems apt :)

View video on youtube.com

surely thats:

su apt-get install Friends

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Quoting: lelouchSuprise;)-not, you all are using ubuntu!
At least I argued, but why u fanboys all haven choosen ubuntu in the first place!? Besides you had no clue and it was popular and big at that given time, so you are using it. (I tested so many distros in years (and many other folks did this too), but never found a good reason to choose suse or ubuntu (minus derivatives there are many other distros) - same reasons why others stick with windows??? So why you haven choosen ubuntu+derivatives? Have you even tried other distros before choosing? Which? And why do you stay with it? So obviously you want newest graphic drivers, but don't want to switch the distro.
(Seriously, I mean REAL reasons w/o fanboying (I see this already under every article about every game), not stupid arguments which concern every linux distro or are just wrong for ubuntu, because these arguments more belong to every other distro than ubuntu&Co)

BTW to the 1p: popular means "most used", but doesn't mean it's good (e.g. Windows lol) - so, I already said that.

Well to answer other than you have made assumptions straight away that because Im using An Ubuntu derivative I am not capable of making an informed decsion on whats best for me (you know this choice thing that open source is all about) because it differs from your belief subjective as that is.

The first Linux Distribution I ever installed was Fedora (Version Core 6 for reference); I have also used Suse and wasnt a fan, and back when I picked up one of the Linux magazines I tried nearly every distro they had on a Live CD. I have never installed Ubuntu - notably because the installer always failed to boot and I had beet things to do than fix that.

I am now on Linux Mint and have been since version 6 (I use Nvidia drivers, so the whole MESA AMD thing doesnt affect me; if I want the latest driver I can download the damn thing direct from Nvidia if I want.), because I like it; simply put thats it. i like Cinnamon as a DE, better than KDE, GNOME, MATE or XFCE (which are what I have tried). And I dont like Unity either.

I have complied programs from source when needed its not as if this ability evades me; I have no fear of the commandline infact I prefer it as a method of program installation! But as I alluded to, Mint is user friendly and mostly works out of the box and I can just use it. This is a bonus to me as with 2 kids (and a wife i suppose) I dont have the time to spend fixing things breaking after updates I want to spend my precious free time actually gaming.

For the record I have a home server that runs debian, because you know what it does that job very well! I have an old laptop that is waiting for me to test Arch on; again this is the time issue as in not having enough of it! Who knows maybe after trying it i will switch my Gaming PC to Arch, but that wont be because Arch is objectively better only because I may subjectively find it better and accept the trade-offs its customizability offers for out of the box workiness!

Why dont I use windows you say; becuase choice I dont want to it adds nothing to the equation that I cant do at least as well on linux. Every distribution has its trade-offs I made an informed decision on what trade-offs I wanted to make.



EDIT: Saw Liams comment about Distro wars after I posted. I generally agree choose what is good for you, dont let others dictate to you what you should be using. All distros are Linux, and choice is good :)

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Quoting: aFoxNamedMorris

Quoting: lelouchWho cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (like SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.

But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving

Because plenty of people still use Ubuntu and it's derivatives, myself included.

Agree with @aFoxNamedMorris, while I dont use Ubuntu I do use Mint18 a derivative and so if I had an AMD card (I dont) this would be usable for me as well.

I really dont understand the Linux community at times, some segments seem very elitist (Not an accusation at lelouch, the comment just reminds me of it); its a case of first they are better because they use Linux, but then because attempts to appeal to a wider audience means there becomes "simpler" (and this is only simple out of the box, the same complexity can be applied to the likes of Ubuntu) distributions aimed at allowing those not so technically minded a step into the Linux world they suddenly migrate to more esoteric Distro's and cry yes Ok its linux but really its "babies first linux" nota tru Linux like XYZ that I use...

It just seems so petty at times.



Back on topic, I see this as a good development, anything that streamlines the installation of drivers will make those wanting to switch to Linux for gaming have an easier time. And in time as you say an official repo may be opened with true support.



EDIT: I guess what im trying to say is that the OS is supposed to work for me the user, not make me work for it. "Simpler", user oriented distributions allow for that without the upfront heavy lifting, and are notably built for stability that means I shouldnt unless I try to mess deeper be subjected to spending hours finding the solution to esoteric problems (or even basic ones) like installing drivers that doesnt involve compiling from source something that really should be available out of the box.

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