It looks amazing.

And it looked the same way amazing years ago, when it was supposed to be released...

This is so old, that I removed it from my wishlist some time last year as I consider it being a waporware...

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Quoting: SzkodnixOh no!

Anyway speaking of Flatpak...

I use mostly snaps and very few flatpaks because Snapcraft is way ahead of Flathub in terms of verified (mainstream-ish) apps. Unverified apps should always have a big fat warning sign.

Yep, this ^^^^!

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Hmmm... Factorio meets Starcraft?

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleStories like this happen every few years. In the early 2010s, a local government in some European city (I forget which) announced they were entirely switching to Linux in all their public service departments. 2 weeks go by, "no, sorry we're sticking with Windows". Turns out they had a visit from a Microsoft sales rep.

Yeah, sounds like some Men in Black from M$ stepped quickly in and proposed "an offer that cannot be refused" to them....
Its sick...

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Well in general, I firmly believe that the FIRST app in user's desktop that shuold be MANDATORY to be sandboxed is the web browser.

Change my mind...

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Quoting: SupayI have had nothing but issues with Snaps. I tried them again recently, with a fresh Ubuntu install, and various applications were just outright broken, as always seems to be the case. Flatpaks worked perfectly and they're my go to choice if a binary isn't available.

Interesting, I have the opposite experience: I'm actually very glad that snaps are there, because I can install 3rd party software like Spotify, Rider, Pycharm or WPS Office, which either would not be there this easily available (e.g. JetBrains apps would have to be downloaded from their website or their separate repo) or would be calling home, if not sandboxed (looking at you, chinese WPS Office...)

For the past years (approx. from Ubuntu 20.04) I've had exactly 0 issues with snaps, and I'm using them daily...

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I think I'm going to install it, finally, to get my own experience...

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Quoting: elmapulpeople asked about licencing cost...
so long as developing proton is more expensive than developing their own linux distro, i dont see why valve would charge for anything, the biggest the marketshare the more advantage for then.

IIRC this is (one of the) reason(s) which brought down MS tablets with WindowsRT (and also their whole smartphone business): MS was greedy and charged manufacturers "some" licence fees (most probably not small) for each copy of windows on tablets and smartphones, which - in turn - raised the costs to manufacture these devices, which - in turn - raised prices of MS devices on the market. And they just were more expensive than their Android counterparts...

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Quoting: nebadon2025Is this an official partnership with valve for SteamOS or are they just making their own image and calling it SteamOS? I feel like if there is no official partnering with Valve on this that its probably not going to go as well as it could.

Well I keep thinking: if the device runs on a similar (or almost the same) hardware, would not SteamOS "just run" on it?
If the answer is "yes", then they might not even need to create their own modified image version, right?

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Quoting: Liam DaweThey give a nice interface and a way to grab them, but they're still dependent on whatever packaging system they have linked in behind them

Just a small side note (and apologies for being a techgrammarnazi):
Snap and flatpack are not just packaging mechanisms, but these are rather app containerization techs. And this makes them a bit different from rpm/deb/aur/whichever older packaging system.

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