Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: kokoko3k

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: kokoko3k

Quoting: anewson

Quoting: BielFPsThere's one thing that saddens me about this game is that, back then when they attempt to make a native version, they didn't had vulkan and the linux graphics were in a sorrow state. That resulted in a (opengl) poor performant native version specially compared to the later Proton that made use of a more performant API.
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Interesting, I've been wondering why for some titles using proton performs better than some native ports; this explanation makes sense to me.

It performed so bad that it can't be due to the api or the bad drivers because:
1 there are examples of opengl games that perform much better
2 Drivers now are fine, but it still performs bad.

Much of the first opengl ports were just bad coded or badly wrapped.

That the first Dying Light performed bad on Linux is news to me, now I don't know how much different it would run on Windows on my hw since I don't have Windows anywhere, but I have 117 hours into the first game and performance for me is extremely good (RX480).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKdT3RuL9jQ

So compared with the Windows version the performance is worse but the actual performance is still not horrible but completely fine. Well that matches my experience.

Quoting: BielFPs

Quoting: kokoko3kIndeed, i was talking about nowdays.
They went to dx11 and 12, leaving vulkan behind.

Unfortunately prioritizing DirectX grants free xbox support

Quoting: BielFPs

Quoting: kokoko3kWorse than that.
They have vulkan and still use d3d.

I remember that Vulkan API was still an infant API at the time, not many hardware supported it and lacked of many resources. Nowhere near as stable and resourceful as it is today.

Add this to the fact that they where probably already developing it before the release (due to steam machines at the time) and you can see that they didn't have choice besides going for OpenGL.

Of course nowadays the opposite is true.

Quoting: Nocifer

Quoting: kokoko3kWhen you buy something, you're paying for support too, so why paying full price for a software that is completely unsupported on your platform, where platform can be Linux in general?

Hmm, no, in my case I personally pay to be able to enjoy the story/gameplay of the game and repay the devs for the effort they put into making it. Support is usually a byproduct.

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: kokoko3k

Quoting: anewson

Quoting: BielFPsThere's one thing that saddens me about this game is that, back then when they attempt to make a native version, they didn't had vulkan and the linux graphics were in a sorrow state. That resulted in a (opengl) poor performant native version specially compared to the later Proton that made use of a more performant API.
...

Interesting, I've been wondering why for some titles using proton performs better than some native ports; this explanation makes sense to me.

It performed so bad that it can't be due to the api or the bad drivers because:
1 there are examples of opengl games that perform much better
2 Drivers now are fine, but it still performs bad.

Much of the first opengl ports were just bad coded or badly wrapped.

That the first Dying Light performed bad on Linux is news to me, now I don't know how much different it would run on Windows on my hw since I don't have Windows anywhere, but I have 117 hours into the first game and performance for me is extremely good (RX480).

Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: GuestIt’s great that it runs with proton, but I’m not buying it full price unless it’s released for linux.

So your never buying it then because they arent gonna bother because its proton or no tux now. Even Feral are stepping away from native ports.

Quoting: anewson

Quoting: BielFPsThere's one thing that saddens me about this game is that, back then when they attempt to make a native version, they didn't had vulkan and the linux graphics were in a sorrow state. That resulted in a (opengl) poor performant native version specially compared to the later Proton that made use of a more performant API.
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Interesting, I've been wondering why for some titles using proton performs better than some native ports; this explanation makes sense to me.

Quoting: GuestDue to the fact that God of War and now Dying Light 2 work acceptably on Linux so quickly, you can see that Proton is probably the most realistic way to support many games with Linux.

Quoting: BielFPsThere's one thing that saddens me about this game is that, back then when they attempt to make a native version, they didn't had vulkan and the linux graphics were in a sorrow state. That resulted in a (opengl) poor performant native version specially compared to the later Proton that made use of a more performant API.

Nowadays they have everything to make a great port for a linux version, thanks to so much investment that was made along those years, but there's almost no probability that we'll see another attempt to make it, due to the problems with their first attempt, and the fact that Proton justifies the lack of reason to work with anything that isn't DirectX.

At least we can somehow play the game on linux and hope that they don't put any kind of anticheat latter.