Quoting: mindedieFor unimpressed lets put games on full-blown emulation (virtualization) and save state, problem solved?

I fail to understand, but for sure saving the state of a game means having state files of several gigabytes (easilly 10 or more on heavy titles).

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Quoting: denyasisI can see I'm non optimized code as a reason that not times on a HDD are slower than in the past, but I'd also argue that, our OS's are also much larger and complicated than in the past. We ask a lot more of our systems today than in the past, even on light weight DE's.

There's a lot more to load. But that's ok. I like the new features and KDE is a DE.

Of course there is more to load, and as i like my Toyota, but cannot afford a Ferrari, i'm sure you would like plasma more if it would be able to do more with the same hardware you're usiong right now, isn't it?
Problem is that for 1 thing more you load, you need 1*k more time, and k is a big number.
I don't know what is your history, but if you can remember the kde3 ages (or maybe you know trinity desktop today), you can clearly see how an HDD was able to boot a full featured system in the time needed to load plasma from an ssd today.
I don't want to write numbers, so lets say SSD is N times faster than HDD,
If i ask myself: is the system i'm using today doing for me N times more than it did years ago, when it used to boot older software in the same time from a disk N times slower?
Well, way no.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: kokoko3k...then today's standards mean unoptimized code.
It is like hiding the dust under cheap carpet hoping that the price of the carpet will continue to go down when we'll need a bigger one.

It's a physical limitation, not a code one. I.e. if you want to use rotational disks, I don't see a need to complain they are slow.

I agree though it's not an excuse when something isn't optimized in general. But it's not about that. HDDs are slow, no matter what you do.

Slow and fast are not absolute ideas.
An hdd is slow, because an ssd is several times faster.
If there were no ssds, but just tapes and hdds, then hdds would have been fast.
We can say that an hdd is too slow or not fast enoigh to boot plasma in reasonable time.
But i'd not blame hdds.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: MnolegMy main issue with KDE is the slowness to boot when compared to any other DE, it is unusable on systems where the home partition is not stored in a local SSD. However, boot times on the Deck will probably be acceptable.

I think by today's standards HDDs are horribly slow for boot times anyway. Why would you want to boot from one? Booting / startup is the most I/O intensive phase. SSDs are totally a huge benefit for that.

...then today's standards mean unoptimized code.
It is like hiding the dust under cheap carpet hoping that the price of the carpet will continue to go down when we'll need a bigger one.

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"There's no workaround"
!?

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Quoting: devs"More players and more support are always welcome, but for us, the primary aim is to ensure as many people on as many platforms as possible can play our game

Nice!

Quoting: devs"We are still deciding when to release the Linux build, it may come with one of the future large updates/patches."

Wait...

Quoting: devsSupporting Linux was easy

Oh.. wait!

Quoting: steamRelease date: 27 apr 2020

Haven't you heard me? WAIT.

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why not create a damn big patch that requires just a bunch of bytes from the original exe and profit instead?

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Quoting: ShmerlI'm still waiting for this to be fixed (the complication was caused by PE migration):

https://github.com/wine-staging/wine-staging/blob/master/patches/winepulse-PulseAudio_Support/definition#L8

Quote# Non-Trival to rebase

It's important for Cyberpunk 2077.

Wow, seems like an important regression potentially impacting audio chats or even proaudio apps...
am I right?

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This wcould mean Windows Virtual Machines going almost native speed by cpu and gpu side, nice!

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: dubigrasuNot anytime soon, no.
But I think that unless there's a major shift in the way of how society and technology are advancing, eventually everything will move to the cloud, in some centralized form whether we like it or not.

Or maybe it will be something entirely new, who knows, we always like to predict the future based on on what we know about the present, and when the future comes, it comes in unexpected forms.

In any case, I don't think gaming as it stands today with local collections and expensive/bulky personal devices will survive for long. We are the last dinosaurs and we don't realize it yet.

Can't say I entirely disagree. I thought much the same about music streaming when it first landed, but I'm bought into that. But it succeeded for reasons that don't apply to cloud gaming.

And in any case, my main point is really just that trying to convince people that cloud gaming is saving the planet is completely deluded. It might succeed for other reasons, but everyone ditching their gaming rigs to play cloud-based games on chromebooks? This ain't it, chief.

Again, pay attention to the last part of my post :)
I'm NOT trying to convince anyone to throw away their gaming rig to save the planet (to be honest, i don't even care that much), nor i'm saying that the chip shortage will last for long.
BUT
in the hypothesis that it would last, or maybe if it will come back for a long time, for different reasons, then it will be a positive thing for thw earth.

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