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Quoting: StoneColdSpider

Quoting: kokoko3k

Quoting: StoneColdSpiderto the next shiny new game

Indeed, that suggests that if one resists to the hype of the moment, it would enjoy games at very low prices, hardware at very low prices, games fixed from release bugs, and the more you wait, the less the probability the game will be removed.
This is what I do lately, and it feels good and right.

Yeah, it means less 'online' gaming, but who cares.

Indeed..... I am in the same boat as you....... If you have ever seen the Weekend Players Club threads on the forum here...... You would see that I mostly play emulated games on my 8 year old PC.......

I have very..... VERY little interest in modern gaming..... So missing out on shiny new games really doesnt worry me....... The big worry though for me is that IF I get interested in playing current day games in 10....... 15+ years time....... Will they still be on sale???....... Or would the window have been closed forever???.....

Digital stores were meant to make the buying window longer (Ideally until the game no longer worked on new operating systems/hardware)....... But we are seeing more and more and more games getting removed from digital stores far earlier than they really should........

And hell even if I did buy the games when they were available...... Will they take have taken them off me by then...... Could this be the new FOMO???....... Play now or miss out..... FOREVER.......

Quoting: StoneColdSpiderIF I get interested in playing current day games in 10....... 15+ years time....... Will they still be on sale???....... Or would the window have been closed forever???.....

But this is exactly the problem solved by waiting enough to get the games that will survive the gaming industry.

I'd prefer to miss a removed game than seeing my beloved game removed from my library.

...lately I'm having great fun writing crt shaders for retroarch and hell, I discovered there are so much gems I still have to play, that I prefer to watch the latest raytraced games on youtube for 5 minutes just to say "wow', but that's it.

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Quoting: StoneColdSpiderto the next shiny new game

Indeed, that suggests that if one resists to the hype of the moment, it would enjoy games at very low prices, hardware at very low prices, games fixed from release bugs, and the more you wait, the less the probability the game will be removed.
This is what I do lately, and it feels good and right.

Yeah, it means less 'online' gaming, but who cares.

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QuoteSuch a shame, all these licensing deals wreak havoc on game preservation.

You actually fear that Valve is going to remove the game?

Quoting: kokoko3kI wonder what happens to pirate copies...
who's gonna sue them?
Sounds like a de-facto free zone to me.

Just because it's not sold anymore doesn't void the licenses. With this premise free software would not be possible, would it?

(unrelated)
"License" is something that allows you to use a product under defined conditions, no license means no rights to use.

Btw, I was not speaking about licenses nor imply that copying that game becomes legal.

My question was "who's gonna sue" on purpose.
Since the game is not sold anymore, the interest from the publisher nears to zero. Would it really take actions against pirates?

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I wonder what happens to pirate copies...
who's gonna sue them?
Sounds like a de-facto free zone to me.

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Quoting: PenglingI'm guessing that you know Bomberman in a similar capacity to how you stated you know Pokemon, or perhaps less?

A police-officer?! :)

I spent some money in the arcade and some time on my c64 amd Amiga, but it was much time ago, and I just remember bombs and men :)

Thank you yoo for the polite discussion!

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I agree with everything you, Philadelphus, wrote, and I want to thank you because English is not my native language and expressing myself on complex topics is challenging.

I also have a personal point regarding the comparison with other non-ethical games.

In Bomberman, you place bombs, they place bombs; we are all the bad guys, and we know it. In about 80% of other games, you play as the good guy who kills bad guys to protect your or other innocent lives, and I'm okay with that too. Then there are games where you take on the role of the bad guy; Tyranny is a great example. I wouldn’t play it, but I’m still okay with it because your role is clear-cut.

What really gets on my nerves with Pokémon and similar games is the fact that the negative aspects are hidden under a guise of positivity.

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Quoting: kokoko3kHowever I fail to understand how that is less "harsh".

The fact that it's just based on a pretty innocent childhood hobby, rather than the organised cricket-fighting mentioned in the Wikipedia article is the first thing that springs to mind. The fact it doesn't tend to result in injuries like cockfighting/bullfighting/dogfighting/etc. is another pretty big one, I thought.

Quoting: kokoko3kOriginal intent aside, the final product promotes moral and ethical standards too far from my principles.

I'm genuinely curious to hear more about this, if you'd indulge me, here, please; I've got no love left for Nintendo, I just want to stretch my mind by hearing other views that I suspect I've not heard before.

Reason being, the main thing they claim the brand is focussed on is friendship, teamwork, and other positives (not even mentioning the stealth mathematics and statistics that come into it), and I've not seen anything really suggesting otherwise. It's a fantasy about collecting monsters and stopping bad-guys, after all.

Quoting: kokoko3kI love japanese culture in general, but the way they 'handle' animals, I cannot stand.

I'm afraid I don't know enough about this to comment. But, totally fair!

The situation seems so tragically clear to me, that I doubt I have understood where your concerns arise from.

Do you really think they could ever advertise the confinement of sentient life forms and make them fight each other as the primary selling point?

I confess I have never even sniffed at a Pokémon game, and my knowledge about it is limited to fleeting glances of disdain towards the TV series; however, I believe it is fair to assume that the video games reflect such practices.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pokemon+battles+videos&t=ffab&ia=web

The fact that all this can be effectively (!) masked by the (not assumed!) friendship between the master and the animal, and that this can so effectively quell public conscience, only makes the situation worse in my opinion.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/AGGDTF/pet-store-with-puppies-for-sale-shinjuku-tokyo-japan-AGGDTF.jpg

If it were humans, one could talk about Stockholm Syndrome :)

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Quoting: PenglingThere are shades of Animal Crossing here, too, which is a formula that no other developer has ever gotten close to yet. I'll be interested in seeing if this one does! I assume that it doesn't play out in real-time, though.

Quoting: kokoko3kIt is absolutely adorable!

However, the concept of animal fights, which the entire Pokémon franchise is based on, bothers me too much to enjoy playing those games.

I always find it interesting how different cultures view this much more harshly than the original intent; Pokemon was actually based on the Japanese childhood pastime of collecting fighting crickets in the woods combined with collecting capsule-toys from vending machines, with the full brand-name being short for "Pocket Monsters", alluding to both.

I did not knew about fighting crickets:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_fighting
However I fail to understand how that is less "harsh".
Original intent aside, the final product promotes moral and ethical standards too far from my principles.

I love japanese culture in general, but the way they 'handle' animals, I cannot stand.

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It is absolutely adorable!

However, the concept of animal fights, which the entire Pokémon franchise is based on, bothers me too much to enjoy playing those games.

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