Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: rustybroomhandleProtip for devs: There's ALWAYS demand for Linux builds. It's not an indicator of how well it will sell.

If you'd be ok with 1% Linux sales and ecstatic with 5%, then port it. That's the likely range you are looking at.

Correct. However, I still think it's a nice idea to show developers who want a little push that there is some form of demand.

To play devils advocate to this statement, the fact THIS site even exists should show developers there's "demand".

Truthfully, though... I generally feel insulted when developers "wait to see if there's demand". This kinda statement suggests to me that they REALLY DON'T WANT TO, buuuut, if they claim they're "thinking" about it, and never do, then they can simply blame US for the lack of a port. "Oh gee, I was really thinking I WOULD develop a Linux version, but, but, the community didn't DEMAND it, sooo... what's a poor little developer like me to do?!" Pfft.

I have far more respect for developers that either say "we don't have the funds" or "we'll revisit Linux after the initial release" or even "we have no plans for Linux right now". At least the onus is on THEM and they're generally upfront about their intent.

Anyway... that's my two cents.

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Quoting: TcheyI much prefer itchio over Steam, the client is better, smoother, easier, cleaner, faster, lighter, opensourcer...

I don't like GoG much because the lack of Galaxy on Linux and some others events, i feel they don't care bot Linux.

Humble is a nice Store, they still have plenty of Linux games, but i don't use it that much outside of the bundles, and i dom't buy many bundles as it tend to have games i already have, or games i don't want.

I don't see what Kongregate will have that the others don't have already, and without Linux support, even worst.

But...

More stores would mean more players in a small terrain, and maybe push the others to improve even more.

Maybe.

So... Steam, Itch.io, GOG, and Humble Bundle
Let's not forget EA's Origin and Ubisofts... thing... F&^k is I can remember.
So, there's SIX digital distribution stores.

Sure... let's add more stores and turn THEM into the shovel ware they, themselves, often sell.

IDK... Perhaps this new contender will make something of themselves... doubt it, though.

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I don't bother with Windows, personally (outside of needing to use it at work), but, I don't think Window's S Mode is of any real issue. The problem is MS has been slowly (and clumsily, most of the time) sliding Windows, and its user base towards a locked in OS. Microsoft is using general user psychology to keep them in MS's own ecosystem (read, store) for as long as possible. They'll let everyone know there's a "free" way out of this lock in, but they know the vast majority won't bother, giving them a numbers win as "evidence" the lock in is what people want.

On the gaming side... MS is tying Windows and XBox together as much as they can. Their new XBox Game Pass (Netflix for XBox games, essentially) is, admittedly, attractive and most definitely another method to lock Gamers into Windows even more.

The truth is... Steam freakin' dropped the ball HARD with Steam OS. They released something only arguably functional that, at this point, only Linux gamers even know still exists as a thing. It definitely doesn't feel like Value has gone out of their way to push "Steam OS" game development. On top of that, as a user mentioned in a post above, Steam OS is NOT an OS as Windows is. Steam OS is for competing with the likes of PS4, XBOne, and Switch, not Windows itself.

The worst part... if it happens... will be Microsoft buying Valve. It seems this is currently under consideration by MS, and IF it happens, that will be the biggest blow to gaming on Linux. Steam will get integrated into the Windows store (and, eventually abandoned on Linux). Steam OS will most definitely be shelved. There will no longer be ANY promotion of Linux as a gaming platform from Value-MS. Sure, there will be some Linux-positive outliers for a time, but, without any BIG name promoting the platform in ANY way... poof.

That's my opinion.

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This looks pretty awesome, but I'm wondering if its always from the perspective of a vehicle. If it is, I'm not sure the game would hold my interest for long.

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As neither the Oculus nor the Vive supported Linux at the time, I bought the PSVR. I still say, VR is gorgeous and has huge potential (even excluding games) IMHO.

That said, as much as I'd LOVE to get a Vive, it's just still too much! My PSVR sits on a shelf more often than I'd like as it is, I don't need two VR sets doing this... though... I do like playing with WebVR, soooo... *ponders*

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This game has been around for quite some time. It changed it's name at one point (don't remember what it was called off the top of my head) and, originally, wasn't explicitly pirate themed. I played it briefly, and didn't seem like there was much available to do. Looks nice, though, and could be fun if you have a bunch of friends who all like survival games :)

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Happy Birthday!!!!
Love this site!

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I played this for a couple weeks on a relatively active server... and by active, I mean, there were people in the game, somewhere, even if I rarely saw anyone.

Without wikis or a more experienced player to guide you, this game is nearly impossible to figure out. Best way to start? Forage the grass! Seriously? Better than punching a tree, I suppose.

IF, however, you read the wikis or find that more experienced player, then, WURM can be a relaxing game and you do get a real sense of actually accomplishing something as soon as you start building your first house (which, on the server I was playing on, I was able to start doing within about 4 hours).

My problem with the game (on a server), over all, was two fold...

1) You want much more than a simple house and a little garden, you NEED to play with others in a town. The catch 22 is, you really won't have the skills to help a village until you start building stuff. If you build stuff outside of a village, you will have to give it all up when you join a village, and, therefore, loose all your progress/stuff.

2) Combat is the worst thing I have ever seen! I suck at combat, in most games, so, I expect to loose a lot, but, in WURM, EVERYTHING can kill you out the gate. You start with a sword and shield, but that's meaningless. You're SKILLS for combat just suck. To raise them, you HAVE to fight. You fight, you die. Oh... no healing potions. You get hit, you take wounds which decrease your ability to fight. To heal wounds, you need bandages (at minimum), and they don't instantly heal the wound (beyond the fact you need to tell the system which wound to heal). OH! And when you die, you loose a little of your skills, across all of your skills. Now... you can train with dummys to raise your combat skills... but that uses up a LOT of time and a LOT of resources (the dummies break, you see, and you will either have to constantly repair or replace them).


After two weeks with the game, I loved the crafting! I built a house, a small row boat, had a decent garden, and was feeling rather accomplished... then, I pissed off a crocodile that chased me to my home. It was WAY to strong for me to kill. Worst yet? It doesn't just walk away when aggro is lost. It hangs around. After trying to fight the croc for an hour, I simply logged out for the night, thinking it'd eventually leave. Logged in the next day and IT WAS STILL THERE! When it was still there the second day (with a goblin friend, I might add), I decided that was it for me.

Long story short... LOVE the crafting... LOATH the combat!

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Quoting: EikeI always got mixed feelings with recreating stuff we already have, just in open source, which doesn't even result in something completely open as it still needs the assets. I mean, of course it's impressive, but...

In regards to needing the assets... that's not, technically, true. Someone could create a whole new game with completely new assets running on this new open source engine. OpenMW is trying to do just this. There is a secondary project to develop assets and a small demo game using the OpenMW engine that doesn't use any of the original Morrowind assets.

I will admit, though, that this isn't as exciting an idea as it may have been even five years ago, given that Unity and Unreal Engine exist and are both cheap enough for most any developer.

Still though, my point is, the assets aren't strictly required. Someone could create their own.

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Quoting: kernel.havok

Quoting: ObsidianBlkIf you want to make this an issue of Entitlement, then the same right back at the developers too that feel they should be entitled to full cost twice

Full cost -- we're talking about 5 dollars (here in Australia). As minimum wage here is ~17 dollars an hour, I can honestly tell you it would take you more than 20 minutes (the cost of working to earn 5 dollars) to code a game client that could execute natively on linux using those game assets.
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Please stop it. I believe you're smart enough to have realized I was not speaking solely of this one game, but more to the president is may set for other games that cost several times more than this one example. You also seem smart enough to have grasped that I never suggested (1) Porters don't do a lot of work or (2) some form of compensation was totally out of the question. Your suggestion of my lack of competency in software development suggests you do not feel my evaluation of what components within the over-all application would/should not need porting was accurate... fair enough. I'd be happy to debate that with you in some other form, if you'd like... I'm not perfect. That said, if YOU are familiar with software development, then you should know that virtually no [game] developer builds an application from total scratch, and many libraries used (within the last two decades) are, indeed, universally compilable on most platforms, reducing the work a porter would need to do. This leaves the fact that, again, a porter is not rewriting %100 of the original code, and virtually nothing changes with the assets.

In regards to the argument over getting a game from 2001 to work in 2017... even within Windows there can be issues with that, and sometimes developers put out patches to allow those older games to run some 16 years later. Perhaps they should charge for those patches too. Sure, patching up within the same OS isn't nearly that hard... then again, considering how much Windows has changed from 2001 to 2017, it very well may be just as hard.


Finally, I'm sure you know that both Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior have had their source released. Duke had his source exposed (*chuckles*) for over a decade now. If anyone's buying Duke or Shadow now, it is most definitely because they don't own all of the Assets... or they're not savvy enough to know they don't have to buy it again.

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