Gas Station Simulator??

Maybe I'm biased, or dumb, or too close to the source material, but I don't really understand at all the appeal of these "blue collar/service" job simulators.

I mean if you're really into it, we have job openings. It's even like an RPG! You start off doing low level work like picking up roadkill and you get to choose you starting equipment (do you want a shovel.... Or gloves?)!!

You can even level up, but it still won't suck up dead animals. Side quest: unclog the Pelican. (Pro tip: pick gloves at the start!)

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: TheSHEEEP"Hatespeech" aka "someone was mean to me on the internet" aka "please protect me from different opinions voiced strongly" aka "I'm sure this will never be abused" aka "whatever those in power deem to be unacceptable at this point in time, to be changed later, this is totally not a slippery slope, trust us".

Mmm definitely don't agree there. Huge difference between mean text and hate speech and I think anyone with a bit of common sense can generally tell the difference. There's really no place for hate speech.

Agreed. There's a total difference between the two.

Having a moderation system for a game actively marketed to everyone is fine and I'm a little surprised was not implemented earlier.

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Did not know that was a thing, or even a problem.

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Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: itscalledrealityGen 1 hardware is never for the plebeians.

I'd be careful of wandering into some elitism here. You might think this is true and I might agree, but as I stare at the Steam store, I see the Deck mentioned 3 times, 2 prominently. It seems clear to me they believe differently.

I’m just being tongue in cheek. Valve’s goal is of course to sell as many of these as possible. It just usually takes a product generation or so before less technical people will comfortably not complain.

Oh, I see, my apologies. I think I was just reading your comment very literally, sorry about that.

Quoting: 1xok

Quoting: itscalledrealityI’m just being tongue in cheek. Valve’s goal is of course to sell as many of these as possible. It just usually takes a product generation or so before less technical people will comfortably not complain.

It is a PC. If you can't tell the difference in games, you can't appreciate it. The Steam Deck is clearly aimed at PC users and they are used to suffering. Even with Windows. :)

If you come from PC, the Steam Deck is already a huge relief.

Windows aside, I think I agree a bit with itsacllesreality on the 1st Gen part, especially with it being a PC. 1st Gen PC gear does have a bit of a reputation of having issues. Whether or not that is still the case, we can debate, but I can honestly say it's affected my PC building choices over the past 20+ years. I tend to wait for late Gen1 refreshes when buying hardware, lol. Part of the reason I'm not considering a Deck at the moment (aside from the price).

I'm glad the rollout is going so smoothly so far, though.

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Quoting: mr-victoryThey can't put this to physical stores for obvious reasons (many high profile games unsupported, software has deal breaker bugs) but what then?

They continue with with their exclusive sale on Steam. There's really few downsides to remaining exclusively on Steam.

Quoting: RandomizedKirbyTree47I don't see why the game library is an obstacle to selling Steam Decks in brick-and-mortar retailers.

Agreed. There are other risks that could dissuade Valve. There's the increased rate of possible returns with brick and mortar. People are more motivated to do a return then they can travel back to the store. There's the loss of information control, with brick and mortar reporting sales, lack there of, and returns to their investors; something Valve doesn't have to do.

Quoting: itscalledrealityGen 1 hardware is never for the plebeians.

I'd be careful of wandering into some elitism here. You might think this is true and I might agree, but as I stare at the Steam store, I see the Deck mentioned 3 times, 2 prominently. It seems clear to me they believe differently.

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Quoting: 1xokOver the last years I had performance problems in many games, for example in Nier: Automata, where I simply did not reach 60 fps @1080p consistently. I had attributed this to my graphics card alone (a GTX 970) until earlier this year.

Then I bought an AMD RX 6600 XT a few months ago. Not a monster but you would expect powerful enough to play a five year old game like Automata with constant 60 fps in high settings. But again, no such luck for me. Then rather out of helplessness I activated this demon from Feral and attention: problem solved!

Not only Automata, but also Elite: Dangerous and many other games run much better with it. It really makes a big difference. Not so much in increasing peak performance but in consistency. I think the effects are especially big when you combine a current graphics card with a somewhat older processor. In my case, an Intel Skylake model.

To be honest, I kinda relegated "scriptish" stuff like this into the pile of silly gimmicks. I'm glad it worked for you. I'll have to give it a shot on my GTX 1079 and Intel 9700 whatever-lake. Anything to keep it running smoothly for years to come!

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Quoting: MayeulCSteam has supported multiple PCs being logged into the same account for some time now, since about the introduction of "remote play" (or "in-home streaming", as it was called years ago).

I'm aware of these features and use them. I'm also aware that when you try to play games independently on the same account, steam blocks you. If your a single PC/steam account type family, it's not a good solution. On the other hand I guess you could stream from your PC to your car? I've used the remote streaming a lot, but never outside of a LAN environment. Might be cool.

Quoting: MayeulCI'm pretty sure you can even restart in offline mode if you want to play simultaneously.

You can, sometimes. But you have to start in offline first. Logging in, trying to play a game, the restarting in offline so as not to boot the other player off doesn't always work. I'm not sure if it sets a local variable or or it phones home regardless claiming to be "offline", either way, the DRM does try to enforce it (although imperfectly). As a single Steam account family, I can fully attest to that. Besides not sure how easy that would be to do while driving.

I think the best way practically would be to setup up a dummy account for family sharing on the car. I think that solves my criticisms.

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Quoting: fleskTeslas support separate profiles for each driver for driving mode, seat and mirror adjustment, etc. I don't know if that will be integrated with Steam profiles at all though. Probably depends on the extent of collaboration between Tesla and Valve

Did not know that. Cool idea. Im not sure why they would need to collaborate with Valve to change profiles. If it's Linux under the hood and it's just switching users, seems like simple autostart would do that. No different than our PC's, right?

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Quoting: denyasisSo, I buy this car for me put steam on. I'm home playing a steam game. My spouse then takes my car to do an errand, it turns on, logs into my steam account ( kicking me at home off). So now I'm trying to call my spouse while they are running errands to go back to the car and close steam?


I can kinda see the criticisms that these innovations are all thought up of people that don't have to think about family life.

I thought Steam actually had some kind of family account thing.

They do! So you could presumably make a separate "car" account for your car and share the library with it. As long as two accounts don't access the same game at the same time, it's ok.

Of course, you'll have to redo your friends, workshop, etc for the new account, and achievements won't sync, or saves, etc. All so you don't get kicked off your account because someone in the family borrowed your car to go shopping.

So, I think the general IoT type criticisms that some of these things aren't really designed with multi-users or families in mind stands.

Mind you, to be fair, I don't have this car. Could it maybe some how ID the person driving and switch to the proper Steam account (and other setting)? Maybe. Hopefully we don't have to do the whole Steam Guard thing while driving, lol.

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So, I buy this car for me put steam on. I'm home playing a steam game. My spouse then takes my car to do an errand, it turns on, logs into my steam account ( kicking me at home off). So now I'm trying to call my spouse while they are running errands to go back to the car and close steam?


I can kinda see the criticisms that these innovations are all thought up of people that don't have to think about family life.

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