Quoting: EikeTo say it more clearly: I fear some actually support Linux despite making a net loss.

I think that's believable. One could argue the "loss" is less by looking at it as skill development or training. Probably cheaper in the long run to multiplatform a smaller game at a "loss" and then apply those skills to develop larger, more profitable projects later on.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI'm not sure they've actually said such things, or we've just assumed that's what they'll do, because it'd be madness otherwise.

Lol. I don't see anyine saying Arch is buggy here. Obviously because Arch didn't break. Steam did. It's on them to fix it. Could have been any distro. That's what testing is for.

Quoting: GuestEven if Valve use their own repos, issues can still happen

Agreed, but that's on Valve to fix it. They are promising a console like experience after all.

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I'll have to try this one again. After my umpteenth death and starting over, I just got frustrated. With all the dialog and starting options, it seems more like a regular RPG rather than a rogue like, so I'm cool with a non permadeath mode.

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Ok, this looks nice.... Might have to start signing up for more overtime.

The only thing. The normal edition mentions bluetooth, but the DIY edition does not. Hopefully just a typo.

I really like the "expansion card" idea, even if it's just a USB hub, the implementation has potential. I will say the card options are a little underwhelming, 2 USB sticks and a few adapters. Especially since you have to pay extra for them when that stuff is standard on most laptops. Hopefully they expand the line up. I'd love to see an Ethernet adapter, old VGA, multi usb C, etc.

Definitely saving up for this one.

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Quoting: detroutWas it patent trolls that took the steam controller off the market, and not poor sales?

Sales would be my guess, combined with mixed reviews and poor support.

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Quoting: GuestWell Leap 15.3 he did not cover but yes when reading post abut other DEs or Distros I questioning the same as well :D

Cause Tumbleweed's better, j/k lol.


But back to debian, I've used it for years as a gaming system with good results. Thier support for Nvidia drivers was very good compared to my current distro (Opensuse), which seems to struggle everytime the kernel updates.

I have a 13 year old server that runs on debian. Still running. Good stuff.

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Quoting: CatKillerassigning blame: it's not anybody's fault, it's an incident

Where I'm from, we'd use the term "accident" for that. That implies it wasn't someone's fault.

That said, both terms allow one to assign blame. If you do assign blame, Accident implies it wasn't intentional. "I didn't mean to, it was an accident!" An Incident can be an accident, but it can also be an intentional act. "He caused an incident at work and got suspended!"

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Quoting: einherjar

QuoteAny support for Linux outside of it running on the deck is incidental, it isn't supported officially.

Wow, that is a negative statement! He does not even consider it "nice to have" or "it is nice for the Linux community if it works" - no it is an incident if it works?
I mean, that is like:"shit, it works for the Linux people!"

Or is this my misunderstanding because of my non native speaker skills?

What he's saying is: "We do not intend for it to work on Linux and if it does it's a coincidence"
Or to put another way " We will not do anything to make it work on Linux and if it does, it's a coincidence"

Further, it infers no garuntee that Linux won't be broken by updates.



While the words aren't generally considered kind. It is very honest and direct. Is likely the same thoughts of most devs on Steam. I mean how many new big name releases coming out for Steam Deck have been announced with native support?

If SD is going to be a success, it's mainly because proton will be a success, I think. I'm not convinced that will turn into more native releases or better hardware support.

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Quoting: grigiHaving the base OS update like firmware really makes sense for this, but since it's a "PC" they would need to allow user apps to update separately. Possibly have those bundle as appimages or flatpacks or something?

Or allow global packages to install into /usr/local or /opt only? (as the base OS would be a read-only FS if it's image driven)

The underlying FS, BTRFS, allows for subvolumes and snapshots. I could see it downloading the subvolume whole and switching to it on reboot.

Or it could just download a huge zip file with an update script to run the package manager and use the file as the repo, lol. No need to invent the wheel.

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Probably get to 1.0 before them, lol

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