I find the constant Debian bashing quite curious. None of the "linux" distros are in a position like windows, where they essentially can do whatever and tell devs to adapt or GTFO. Devs have to adapt to it no matter what. On the other hand, the vocal linux users usually prefer the "bleeding edge" distros, and while that's perfectly okay, it is also probable they don't really need that version of every package, but rahter a handful of packages.

On the side of the enterprises, it's understandable that they want something that just works (since these programs are not open, they can't get fixes "for free" even for the trivial bugs), and for that goal i think debian or ubuntu works most similarly to windows (updates). That's why most games target these distros.

I fully agree with the commenters that say the linux compatibility is up to the companies too. I too have many games from 2010-2015 that run just fine almost 10 years later, needing no library downgrades (or manual compilation). I think most people here know that which devs or porters make those games by now.

More to the topic of SteamOS i think this just means they will roll out a new release sometime. The work on the VR stuff and their usual work on the drivers probably merit that too.

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Quoting: JJNova

Quoting: dvdAny advice on finding active servers/times? After a 4-5 years break i recently installed it again, and found the servers dead by comparison. I'm quite excited for the new game too, but i kind of don't believe they make the new release anytime soon, due to the weird development model they are using, where even as they are making a free game and a for profit one they do not open their project up.

I don't know anything about their for-profit game. I have seen their updates for Urban Terror 5, but I've stopped expecting it anytime soon. They are currently doing alpha tests on it with community members.

There are active servers at all times of day. After starting it up, click on "Play Online" and then at the bottom left you can click on "Get New List". I sort by players so I can see which ones have the most people on them, but occasionally I sort by ping just so I'm not at a major disadvantage.

What do you mean? UrT is not for profit, but it is nonetheless close source, and the development (including code and assets) are kept tightly in control with the core devs (frozen sand). As for the servers, i've only found 1-2 active servers, both of which have horrible pings to me.

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Dead Cells: It sucked me in again, currently trying to get the third boss cell.

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Quoting: JJNovaI have been bouncing back and forth between Urban Terror and Deponia. I bought all of the Deponia games years ago for a few bucks each, and just started going through my backlog.

Urban Terror on the other hand, is always installed and ready to go at a moments notice. I'm quite excited for the next release and hope it happens in 2020.

Any advice on finding active servers/times? After a 4-5 years break i recently installed it again, and found the servers dead by comparison. I'm quite excited for the new game too, but i kind of don't believe they make the new release anytime soon, due to the weird development model they are using, where even as they are making a free game and a for profit one they do not open their project up.

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Quoting: Kimyrielle

Quoting: einherjar

Quoting: Kimyrielle

Quoting: SalvatosInteresting, but I hope it doesn’t start penalizing people who make frequent legitimate reports... I would expect people who are frequently targeted by reports to be weighted down instead.

... The toxic masculinity (and that's what we're talking about here in the end) that has more or less defined gaming culture since its inception needs to be finally removed from it.

Oh I think you forgot to mention that it is WHITE toxic masculinity! Of course women (and divers people?) do never show toxic behavior. Masculinity is the root of all evil (at least in the gaming world)!

It is really sad, that you bring this nonsense into the discussion. Hope you can find the irony.

I have no clue about their skin color, nor that it matters. You can't really see that stuff in chat, or in voice com. Shocking, I know! But what I can tell you is that in the cases I was able to ascertain their gender, 100% of the people that ever harassed me online were male. To you and your personal version of reality, it might be nonsense. To me - you're probably a part of the problem. Among things because your post made it evident that you're clearly in denial mode, because you felt a need to ridicule my point like that instead of addressing it in a mature fashion. Gosh, were have we seen THAT rhetoric before?

Honestly, i play way less online games than i used to, and it's mainly because of the gahmer posturing that constantly goes on. And i haven't even met one of the real toxic ones. In CS, the very few times i play it, i enjoy having voice turned off, and i will probably enjoy turning the chat off too. I stay away from the competetive game mode anyway.

On the topic it would be great if they managed to get a system going that discouraged bad behaviour.

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Quoting: Alm888

Quoting: ShmerlHow much drag is there?

/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvulkan_intel.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvulkan_radeon.so
/usr/share/bug/mesa-vulkan-drivers
/usr/share/bug/mesa-vulkan-drivers/control
/usr/share/bug/mesa-vulkan-drivers/script
/usr/share/doc/mesa-vulkan-drivers
/usr/share/doc/mesa-vulkan-drivers/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/mesa-vulkan-drivers/copyright
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/mesa-vulkan-drivers
/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/intel_icd.x86_64.json
/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.x86_64.json

That is for starters. And then the package dependency hell kicks in and this all goes downhill. Fast.

Remember, before libGLVND we could not even have two OpenGL implementations installed at once, so installing Mesa was not an option.

IMO, the less dependencies a project has the better. And Mesa here is clearly redundant. Of course, I think it would be better if the original "Mesa Vulkan Overlay" project was untied from the Mesa in the first place.

Offtopic: There are lots of problems with Mesa. It being critical system component and thus "frozen in stone" in the Ubuntu LTS releases for two years for many people is the most prominent. And in order to not be stuck with hugely outdated software Ubuntu users resort to hacks like untested unstable repositories (due to NIH syndrome Canonical® calls them "PPA"s) thus throwing the whole idea of stable supported system out the window. :)

I may be mistaken, but i think binary blobs are not officially part of ubuntu, so the blame's on nvidia.

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Quoting: 0aTT

Quoting: SslaxxHow bizarre. Why would Epic want to support a rival project, commercial or not, open source or not?

Unless they're going by the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" principle...

Nothing Epic has been doing lately makes too much sense from a business perspective.

I think it's just because Tim Sweeney is still a programmer at heart. He's trying to compensate for that with seemingly badass business practices. Probably because he read in a book that that's how you do it.

But let's be honest: As soon as the Fortnite millions are missing, the EGS is over, because it simply lacks the business model. In the end, Sweeney pays publishers and customers to use his shop. Valve on the other hand is probably still in the black with its Linux commitment. This is the subtle but significant difference between programmer Tim Sweeney and GabeN the businessman.

But it's definitely wise to take the Epic money with you as long as it's there. Because there's just no future in it.

It's not necessary a "rival", it is a tool in the same sense as blender, maybe they see a use case (down the road) for it.

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Quoting: Adam_eMI cannot resist the feeling that it was basically a politically motivated decision. Linux version, worked flawlessly at all, and it was based on a multiplatform engine, so what makes them unable to support it further on actually? All those bells and whistles teased by psyonix? I won't go for a refund though, It's without any doubt - one of favourite games I had in my library. Playing it from day-1... I wonder if they're going to implement their anti-cheat solution, or what actually stops them from further support.

I think the whole announcement reeks of company speak for publisher (or new owner) told us to cease support.

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Quoting: legluondunet

Quoting: dvdIf that were true, their whole operation would have had to be in the red for the last few years. All the games i have from Feral worked with wine before they were ported. But having a port was always better than wine, even in cases like Hitman, that had some teething issues with the graphics.

"All the games i have from Feral worked with wine before they were ported"

Are you sure? It's not a long time Wine + DXVK support correctly Tomb Raider last episodes, Life is Strange 1/2, Middle-earth™: Shadow of Mordor™, DEUS EX....All this games was not very well supported by Wine when Feral port them natively on Linux.

Curious, i played LiS using wine before the port came out. I don't remember any game breaking bugs, apart from the occasional lag that was due to my laptop being ancient at the time. I can't speak for the rest, since i did not play them with wine, however i can say i wouldn't have bought either of them were it not for Feral interactive properly porting and supporting them. ( Only game i bought without port is Hitman 2 since i really really like Hitman and assumed it would get a feral port after they ported the first episode, but that's my bad. ) Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but apart from the very earliest linux ports (like portal 1 and 2) i have never ran into any compatibility problems with linux ports in the last 3-4 years whereas with wine (which i seldomly use) i usually run into some of the usual problems like alt-tab not working, games not exiting well, sound breaking.

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Quoting: legluondunet

Quoting: dvdNot everyone wants to play with wine.

But it will be commercially more pertinent for Feral to make a Linux port from a game that is not working with Wine.

If that were true, their whole operation would have had to be in the red for the last few years. All the games i have from Feral worked with wine before they were ported. But having a port was always better than wine, even in cases like Hitman, that had some teething issues with the graphics.

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