Quoting: fagnerln

Quoting: ThormackThe new Steam officially supported distro just launched.
Awesome.



(Just a speculation, for now...)

Nah, I don't think so.

There's a lot things to do after the installation. IMO they will support a more friendly distro, preferably with a corporation behind, like OpenSUSE or Fedora

Maybe they create a new distro for desktop use based on Debian.

I don't see where people get the impression that Ubuntu is more 'user friendly'. Nothing says that better than their python based installer that regularly crashes at the partitioning step with a bunch of exceptions that are surely easier to read for the average user than plain language.

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Quoting: einherjar

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

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Quoting: einherjarThanks Canonical :><:

Now we will have lots of game devs and publishers saying:
"See, there is no reliable Distro in the Linux world. It doesn't make sense to ship software for Linux"

No doubt we will. But they will be fools to do so. Look, Microsoft and Apple make stupid decisions all the time. When they do, just exactly what can you do about it? Can you switch to a different Windows or Mac OS distro?
This is a time to celebrate the fact that Linux distros are not monopolies.

Like it or not, but with that small userbase it is also a disadvantage.
Developers and Companys like Adobe will be held away from bringing their software to Linux.
They want one reliable OS --> MS gives it to them.

We need a big popular and reliable Distro, to have enough marketshare and live the "diversity". With 1% marketshare distributed across more then 10 Distros, we will remain irrelevant (on Desktop) for most of the companies.

As may be--would you be happier right now if Ubuntu were the only Linux distro?

Absolutely not. But when there is not one big "standard" (with a bigger marketshare may be two) Distro, that developers can adress, we will not get software/games for Linux. And that one also has to be beginner friendly.
It is very positive, that there is more than one, but too much is also not good.
the dose makes the poison...

May be a bit too simplified, but games only need access to a window (surface) and some drivers. Apart from that, they don't really need anything else. I suspect being 'irrelevant' has more to do with incompatible middleware and the costs of retraining their staff (programmers, support staff) to support another platform they don't see much profit in. The developers/publishers that put out more than one linux game seem to have no problem to continue to release on linux.

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This is something i've been looking for for years. Given that the WC3 remaster probably won't arrive for linux, this will be an insta buy for me. Let's just hope that their order of screws arrive in time.

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Quoting: TemplateRI personally think, that Valve should create a Linux-Distribution, which is NOT based on Debian or Arch. It would be much better to have more controls, hat should remain and what not.

BUT Valve should also recreate a new desktop environment, which aims more for PC instead of Console.

That's a terrible idea. Valve only wants to control the graphics drivers and at most a handful of packages that make the steam client and games work. The bare minimum, so what they did with Steamos. Of course, they need to control package versions if they want to sell it as part of their own control package, that's why they made Steamos at all in my opinion.

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Quoting: Thormack

Quoting: gojulSteamOS being Debian-based, recommending Debian or Mint/Debian would make a lot of sense. But it is true that Debian is not for beginners.

Agreed. Pure Debian is tricky to install, configure and maintain (compared to Ubuntu).
Perhaps Mint-Debian then...

Who knows.....

I never got what's tricky about installing Debian? Apart from it's partitioner not crashing like Ubuntus did when i last tried to install it. If you use graphical install, it shouldn't be harder than installing windows, or ubuntu. As i recall, it even asks the same questions.

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Quoting: dvdI could never get into those games. CS was so good because it had fun gameplay, and it ran even on your toaster. Can't say the same of the new ones (Source, GO), even though i still like them. I don't really understand the argument that it was dated, since before GO none of it's successors or other games offered a comparable experience. (for me at least)

All you can do in CS is shoot and crouch behind boxes (I'm not saying about tactics, just about basic controls). In CoD4 you can go prone, crawl, aim down sights, use perks, unlock stuff, play more game modes. I hoped Valve would release a modern online FPS, but CS:GO appeared to be a CS:S reskin. It's not a bad game, just inferior to other online games for me.

Quoting: ElectroDDRemember that in official matches, we had 5 sec to buy equipment... And autobuyers and macros and scripts were forbidden in tournaments.

It takes only one second to b42o2o4.

Yes but all those game modes aren't all that original, most of them are just taken from quake or cs. Pretty much the only exciting concept left in online games is class-based games like team fortress or overwatch.

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I don't really play many online shooters nowadays, as i find most of them are too boring. Even on CS i only play the occasional match. I prefer games like wasteland 2 or xcom these days. I would also like games like TES, but those never seem to come out for linux, except for the witcher 2.

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If Debian won't have the same problem, it would make sense for them to support it, as they already base Steamos on top of Debian iirc.

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Quoting: ageresI had been playing CS 1.6 very much when I was a University student. I played rather well on LAN servers. I wish I spent time more on studying than on Counter-Strike though. My favourite maps were aztec and cbble.
I still keep screenshots made those years (2005-2007). But when I saw Call of Duty 4 multiplayer first time, I immediately realized how outdated Counter-Strike was and lost interest in it.

I could never get into those games. CS was so good because it had fun gameplay, and it ran even on your toaster. Can't say the same of the new ones (Source, GO), even though i still like them. I don't really understand the argument that it was dated, since before GO none of it's successors or other games offered a comparable experience. (for me at least)

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I used to play it on a LAN in the library. I still have way more hours in 1.6 even though i still play the odd session with GO. My biggest disappointment is that they never really released more challenging/interesting maps in "war games". I probably should play more on community servers, those were the hearts of 1.6 too.

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Quoting: Asustadia will look like linux at first then it will get ugly after some time. Just like android.
I won't be surprised when google fork gcc and make a new compiler for that platform.

They have no reason to, since "Stadia" or whatever will only run on their servers. The more software they rewrite the more maintaining it would cost. They will probably write the bare minimum needed to provide such a service, like client applications for various machines/operating systems they plan to deploy their services on. (probably phones and windows)

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