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Quoting: SalvatosI'm surprised there's no word on the music on their KS page, that trailer sounds pretty great even though the game doesn't interest me.

What specific information would you like to know more about?

I don't need anything, just expected to see who made the music and possibly a few more samples like many video game projects do in a soundcloud widget :)

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I'm surprised there's no word on the music on their KS page, that trailer sounds pretty great even though the game doesn't interest me.

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This is the closest thing to a rogue-lite I buy since Hand of Fate and I'm very happy with it so far. The (single!) developer has been very responsive to criticism regarding the AI and is already working on it https://steamcommunity.com/games/NowhereProphet/announcements/detail/1600384800364582176

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Quoting: x_wingStadia doesn't seems to be a replacement of every game we know, but it's probably the future for all the games that heavily depends on massive multiplayer online.

I'll be honest, if I could play Guild Wars 2 at more than 10 FPS with a one-time repurchase instead of having to upgrade my CPU for that one game because it's so oddly optimized, Stadia might actually be attractive for me in that case. So yeah, MMOs on Stadia might have a future.

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Quoting: KimyrielleAlso, hardcore gamers don't care about spending money for a good machine, while they DO care about any sort of FPS drops or ping lag, either of which is unavoidable when streaming. On the other hand, casual gamers don't need to stream either, because their office PC or standard gaming console can run their handful of no-so performance hungry games well enough, and doing so is considerably cheaper in the long run than paying a Stadia sub.

I feel like the gaming market is much less binary than you make it sound here. I'm sure even hardcore gamers wouldn't mind spending less money on gaming if the quality were comparable (which is probably doubtful in this case due to lag, but the other benefits could sway slightly less hardcore gamers). And while extremely casual gamers might only need a smartphone or a tablet, there's a pretty wide range of gamers in between that enjoy or would enjoy sometimes-demanding games that their current machine may or may not be able to run properly. I myself tend to buy games years after release because I don't like to upgrade my rig too often, even though it's no longer because I can't afford to.

For anyone who doesn't have a powerful computer, no matter the reason (price, access, need vs. focus on gaming, etc.), a streaming service can be a useful way to access more games and more demanding games:
- no initial download means if you have a decent enough connection for streaming videos at laptop resolution but downloading a 100-GB game would take a day, here you can play immediately;
- if you don't have unlimited bandwidth, it's probably easier to fit some more hours of video streaming in your monthly allowance than a large game download (or several);
- if your disk space is limited, you don't have to sacrifice hundreds of gigs for games, especially those you don't play often but don't want to re-download each time;
- and of course everything related to having a good enough CPU, GPU or even driver/library/OS version;
- bonus: and it's probably even safer since you have fewer programs installed that can introduce vulnerabilities, and faster if you're on Windows because it's fewer files for your bloated antivirus to scan through :P

Now don't get me wrong, I'm still not interested personally, not least because it has Google's tentacles in it, but I can absolutely see practical benefits to it.

Quoting: DuncI can't put it any better than Shamus Young at the Escapist:

QuoteFive years of Stadia will set you back $700, at bare minimum. (That’s the cost of the Founder’s Edition — which comes with three free months of premium access — and the monthly fee over the next 57 months.)

Who is this service for? It’s supposedly for people who want to play AAA games but don’t have access to AAA hardware. It’s for people who are into hardcore games but don’t mind an unavoidable baseline of input lag. It’s for people who can’t afford a $400 console but can afford to buy games at full price and pay an additional $120 every single year. It’s for people who have lots of devices who somehow don’t own any dedicated gaming hardware. (...)

Stadia is for casual gamers who are into hardcore titles and poor people with lots of disposable income. This is a service for nobody, and it makes no sense.

Those are all very good points, but it only really applies to the Pro subscription. If you go with a free account, you only really need to buy the games (as is already the case) but no longer need an up-to-date gaming PC.

Quoting: GuestAnd that link with regard to the "gmail data" is not entirely applicable to Stadia:

"The account you use for Stadia is built on top of your Google account, but of course you'll be able to have an online persona that is distinct and different from your Google persona. We're committed to protecting and respecting users' privacy every step of the way. "

To me that only seems to say that you can change your display name on the service. It's still the same account and they can tie everything you do and say to it.

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That looks like a trainwreck waiting to happen, without some form of moderation :( Cute idea, though.

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Another backer here. This game took so much longer to make than anticipated. Thankfully it's been a labour of love and as far as anyone can tell they poured much more time into it than the money raised justified. From the bits they've shown, I expect it to pay off, but I look forward to giving it a go for myself :)

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Time to try converting some more friends to this!

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Can't you play all of those games at archive.org anyway?

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: BeamboomNo - it's a very good analogy. You're already catering for one market.

It's not a correct analogy. Releasing for Linux is expanding your audience. That wouldn't stop you from continuing releasing for Windows users. Releasing for Windows users more instead, means excluding Linux users, for more profits. That's greed.

Is it also greedy for a local book store to not open branches in other towns instead of expanding their current one to offer more variety to their current customers? That would be excluding every human being who doesn't live in the vicinity of their store, for more profits (because opening a brand new branch is much more costly than renting/building extra space).

What about a bakery that starts making more croissants because they can't keep up with demand, and chooses not to make buckwheat bread for that one customer who comes by occasionally to ask if they have any? Is it really that unfair for them not to incur additional costs (in time, ingredients, maybe some training) just because they know there are some people who would buy some of that product?

In both examples, you choose to keep serving the same customers with more products because you already know you have a sustainable customer base and the means to provide the product they want. You could make the effort to expand laterally, but it would be more effort, more investment, and for some a tangible risk of failure.

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