Quoting: Eike

Quoting: g000hupdates to the oficial list of games white listed by valve.

By the way, did we give up on "Show games released natively for Linux!"...?

You messed up that quote. elmapul made it, I quoted him/her in my quote. Not sure why you're jumping from 'my' conversation to 'did we give up on...', I can't see how it links up.

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Quoting: elmapul"What would you like to see improved next in the Steam Client?"
updates to the oficial list of games white listed by valve.
it may seem something small, but the protonDB database isnt realiable, some people rate the game as platinum without knowing about all the features that the game have in order to be able to test it and make sure everything is working, so some "platinum" or "gold" ratings are false positives.
example: guilty gear dont have any videos on proton (neither the intro, nor the extras nor anything else that the game may have, looks like the issue is that the codec for then is WMV, but that is an issue that valve can easily fix asking devs to convert the videos and distribute alongside the game (or convert then selfs asking permission to redistribute it)
another issue is features like hair works that may not work on linux, but the game be rated platinum regardless.

Related to this request of yours, I feel like mentioning that I have had a couple of ProtonDB and Steam purchase experiences recently that might help you (and others reading).

I wanted to purchase the Windows-only game "UnExplored" which was on sale on Steam a few weeks ago. My reasoning was - It is listed as Bronze status on ProtonDB - and I can purchase it, test it for 2 hours, and if it fails to run with Proton/Steam Play then I can request a refund. Well, the game didn't run for me with Proton :( so I made a refund request to Steam, got the refund, the game was removed from my library - All good. It might be possible to get UnExplored working, using tweaks, but I didn't discover one during my short test. (I reported my BORKED failure back onto ProtonDB list, and note that some other people have got it working.) My advice: Get the game, and take advantage of the grace period, and get refunded if it doesn't work.

Proton/Steam Play is a work in progress and as much as it is getting better and better, I'm aware that there is potential for some games to work and others to fail and there might be tweaks needed for some games. That is the nature of it. I'm happy for progress to be going ahead, and it would be good if the Supported Games list was swelled, but give them a chance - This is quite new, experimental work going on here.

Back to my latest (yesterday's 4.2-3 release) experiences with Proton and ProtonDB. Hurray! Of my 16 installed Proton games, currently only one game isn't working (The game which is failing is "Antihero".)

I have at last got Fallout 3 GOTY and Elder Scrolls Skyrim SE working with full NPC audio and all working as expected, BUT I needed to apply relatively simple "Set Launch Options" into the game's Properties dialogue for the games to run correctly.

Fallout 3 GOTY - Here is my SET LAUNCH OPTION:
PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 %command%

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition - Here is my SET LAUNCH OPTION:
WINEDLLOVERRIDES="xaudio2_7=n,b" %command%

Note that I got both these tweaks from reading user comments on ProtonDB - Cheers for that!

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Something a little unusual happened for me, when I had the new Steam client update: It wanted to download a number of older Proton Installs, e.g. 3.16, 3.16 Beta, even though I am using Proton 4.2 (4.2-2) and that tool is installed and set to be my "specific Steam Play compatibility tool" for the various Windows titles that I have installed. I dealt with it by ensuring all my Windows games were tied to Proton 4.2, and manually uninstalling the earlier Proton tools. All seems fine following these manual steps.

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I've gone through numerous thoughts and a range of emotions with respect to the Epic store. This latest news about easy running of Epic's windows client via the hard work of the Lutris and WINE teams does soften my dislike of Epic a little. On the one side, the Epic game client now works easily on Linux, and a selection of games (including exclusives not available elsewhere) is now accessible from this store front. On the other side, there is no native Linux game client, and none of the games being sold on the store is native Linux. Also, I find exclusivity to be an abhorrent anti-consumer practice designed to restrict consumer freedom while being beneficial to the store and game publishers.

So, this is my take on it: (1) Get an Epic account and pick up the free games. (2) Avoid buying on the Epic store as much as possible (until the current situation changes). (3) Keep buying native Linux games on stores that support us, typically Steam, GOG, itch.io, Humble, and similar. (4) If you have to buy a Windows-only title, at least try to buy it on Steam and play it with Proton, to boost Linux play and purchase statistics.

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Something about its graphic style reminds me of old Ultima games, and I mean it in an endearing way rather than mocking. Checking my wishlist just now, and yes, I'd already added this game.

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As a massive fan of FTL and Slay The Spire, it is good to see this title coming out. Watching with interest, added it to my wishlist already. Compounding scaine's sentiment - Roguelike's like this play differently with every run-through. Owing to RNG, you end up with different encounters, different card decks, not to mention that you might choose a different starting character/group of characters. You also might find multiple endings.

When I started FTL and Slay The Spire, it took me many hours of play, before I was even able to get near the game ending. Certainly, they have been among the best value games I have ever owned.

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Quoting: razing32

Quoting: dpanterStill a bit miffed about the 166 US$ price tag on the limited edition Beast box. It would have been very, very, very nice to have that stunning piece of box art on my shelf. Had my finger on the trigger many times back in December, but the price stayed my hand each time. :S:

The normal box isn't as cool imho, plus it's still a hefty 40 US$... but the free version doesn't include the inevitably epic Buckethead soundtrack. Oh well.
At least it's coming soon! ^_^

WAIT
166$ for a doom wad ???

No, $166 is for a collectable merchandise box which includes the game wad.

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Now that I've read your game-play review, my interest is even greater than before. I've been following the game and already wishlisted it.

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Quoting: dpanter

Quoting: g000hDebian Linux 10 Buster (Testing) and have enabled the Experimental repository but only permitted (manually installed) the Nvidia graphics drivers/libraries from it (version 415.27).

nvidia-driver 418.56 has been in experimental a while now. :)

Well, a couple of weeks ago. For me, a *while* is a few months...

Your comment spurred me to manually update to the *latest* experimental drivers, and for any Debian beginners, I'm sharing the technique below (but I suggest to only run commands like this if you back-up your OS).

su -     
# I don't use sudo, this gives you "root" privilege (for the following commands)
vi /etc/apt/sources.lst

- Add experimental, alongside buster:

deb http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
..
..
deb http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

vi /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10defaultRelease

- This is a new config file, running alongside the other apt configs, and it just contains:

APT::Default-Release "buster";

- Having this stops experimental packages from installing, unless you manually force them

The regular update and upgrade commands:

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

Now we're ready to install the new experimental Nvidia driver and associated packages:

apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-driver libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-vulkan-common

I also like to do various clean-up and maintenance commands, e.g.

update-grub2
reboot
apt-get autoremove
apt-get clean

Going into Nvidia X Server Settings, and the new driver is visible: 418.56

After doing this, I tried out my non-performing Proton titles and a few random Proton titles and all were running just like they were with the 415.27 driver. Maybe a tiny frame rate change.

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Sharing my own recent Proton experience: I have 16 Proton games installed. My Steam client set up is to "Enable Steam Play for Supported Titles" but the "Enable Steam Play for all other titles" is unticked. This is fine however, because you can individually go into each game's properties and set the game to use a specific version of Proton (e.g. The latest 4.2-2)

In order to use Proton in this way, I found that I needed to manually install the Proton Tool in the TOOLS part of the Steam Library. As I am writing this, I have Proton 3.16 Beta installed and Proton 4.2 (meaning 4.2-2) in the TOOLS list.

I have just gone through the various Proton enabled titles, and updated each of them to use Proton 4.2-2 and in some cases, when I tried to launch the game it would hang. However, a repeat attempt, and occasionally a restart of Steam Client, and eventually they are all up and running again (well, the ones that I don't have issue with.)

Here are the titles I have installed: Antihero (* never worked), Blades of Time, Braveland Heroes, Card Quest, Elder Scrolls Skyrim SE (* NPC audio still doesn't work), Fallout 3, Legend of Grimrock 2, Monster Slayers, Redout Demo, Risen, Runestone Keeper, Styx: Shards of Darkness, Super House of Dead Ninjas, Superflight, Tales of Candlekeep: Tomb of Annihilation.

Of those titles, Antihero has never worked, Skyrim SE is somewhat improved with recent Proton but I still have the NPC audio being silent problem, and Fallout 3 GOTY used to fail completely until a more recent Proton release (e.g. 4.x). The 14 games listed above with no asterisk (*) after their name all work near perfectly.

Noting that I am running Debian Linux 10 Buster (Testing) and have enabled the Experimental repository but only permitted (manually installed) the Nvidia graphics drivers/libraries from it (version 415.27).

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