Quoting: LeflI was looking at the screenshots before reading and thought: "That looks a lot like Godot"
It's a great Engine, but sadly it starts to have performance pretty soon when you have many meshes in a scene.

I hope 3.0 will be better in that regard, Juan put a lot of good work into the new renderer :)
Sadly, I only did limited testing of 3D so I can't tell yet.

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So, here's how I feel about it.

Nowadays, I only buy games that run on Linux, where the Linux icon appears on Steam. I do even wait to buy it, until I'm on a Linux box, should I somehow be on another platform at the moment. I try to buy as many games from publishers, like Feral, on their site directly, if they have a Steam key. So far so good.

Now, there are currently 90 Windows-only games in my library (I now have many more games that run on Linux too), from when I was still gaming on Windows, like 3 years ago. And there, it becomes a difficult question.

Honestly, if a game was really worth it, I might buy it again.

However, that being said, before a game is ported to Linux, or any other platform it currently runs on (this isn't a Linux-only problem), the developer/publisher of course needs to do a market analysis, if the port is even worth it.

Now, that analysis will probably include a lot of factors, such as:

a) Will people, that have the game on one platform, buy it again for the target platform?

Probably some will do, as we have already seen by the comments to this article. But you can not count on the fact that everyone will. It would not make sense from a business perspective to expect that, either.

b) How many new sales can we generate?

Here again, you can not rely on the fact that 100% of the users of your target platform will actually buy the game. Some are not interested, some don't have the money, some already have the game on another platform. Also, you have to account for the fact that some people only buy games on sale.

c) How much buzz can we generate?

When porting to another platform, there is also another thing, besides money for the port, that you get. Popularity. Even if you may not break even on this port, you have to consider future games, too. If people know you release games for their platform, and they like your games, there's a good chance they'll buy in the future. The future porting will probably also be less costly, as you can pre-plan for the platform from the get-go, and make porting a lot easier. Or develop for the platform directly from the get-go.

TL;DR: So what I'm saying is, as a developer/publisher, you probably already take into account sales on other platforms, and that they might not rebuy, before doing the port, amongst other factors.

It's not an easy business, and everyone should get paid what they deserve, but you have to do your market studies. Just like for every other product you want to sell.

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Wow that was fast!

The Steam page now lists Linux + they have an announcement!

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Quoting: Shmerl... The license does permit modification to the software for use in a product, so hopefully the empty "source code" archive is just a place holder or an oversight and they still have plans to release it at some point. The empty "source code" archive does seem very strange.

That's actually GitHub. When you do a release, it will automatically zip and tar a snapshot of the repo and call it "Source Code". Happens when I do releases too, and automatically.

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Quoting: drakkar123I am not sure why there are always people that jump to the worst conclusion possible about anything to do with Valve, but Steam Audio is 100% royalty-free and they have made the source code available as well. There is a link provided to the GIT page right in the original post, or take a look here- https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-audio/releases

As far as I can see, there is no source code anywhere to be found. Not in the repo, and not in the releases.

Quoting: drakkar123OpenAL is partly free, but for the more advanced features, Creative holds the rights on it and licenses it out, and I don't think MS will be sharing any of their crap anytime soon (thankfully). Sure, I would have preferred to see a full GPL license on Steam Audio, but I am still all for any free option, with freely available source code, especially if it provides a high quality, free alternative to other "less friendly" companies.

OpenAL is LGPL. Sure, there are "devices" (basicly output plugins) that Creative holds licenses to, but you don't have to use them. MS has actually released some nice code under MIT license recently, like .net Core and Visual Studio Code (which is really good, btw), not every code from Microsoft is bad and crap anymore ;).

And again, no source code for Steam Audio. Sure, it's free (as in free beer), and even if it had source code, the license is not FOSS-friendly at all.

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Not FOSS? Not interrested, sorry.

I mean, even if I would develop a commercial game, why would I rely on 3rd party libraries that I have no control and code of? Just so that down the line in 5 years my game becomes unusable and unupdateable if said 3rd party library is no longer being made, or the company that made it bankrupt. Or I want to port to a new platform the library doesn't support...

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Quoting: ageresWhat about performance on AMD CPUs? Once again my FX-8350 is in the minimum settings and only Intel is in the max settings.

Haven't tried it extensibly yet, but from the few minutes I played it was running very well (I have an RX 480 8GB GPU, in case it's important).

EDIT: My CPU is an AMD FX-8350

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[quote=ShabbyX][quote=riusma]

Quoting: SolitaryTo remember REISUB, you can either:

- Remember that it's BUSIER backwards
- Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken

I originally learned it wih "Raising Elephants Is Utterly Boring". :D

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: beniwtvWell, tried it now - on some maps you can actually play now, some are still broken :(

Do make sure you report any issues :)

Yes - I report quite a lot of issues to developers, and up until now all have been solved with updates / beta-branches :).

I need to give this a little more testing time, though. have not yet had the chance to test this properly - or to play with graphical settings and such.

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Well, tried it now - on some maps you can actually play now, some are still broken :(

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