Sorry to be a bit off topic but since the Cheeseness's post, I just noticed that a lot of games are now missing macOS releases on GOG.com. I noticed it when searching in the winter sales and got surprised to see for some games, just the Windows and the Linux icons, while I clearly know for some that a macOS version exist.
Apparently on Steam it's not the case, it just display a warning about it.

But damn... that's a serious issue for the Apple environment! :O
Are they shoot themselves in the foot (I mean not with a revolver, but with a rocket launcher), aren't they?

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Quoting: DrMcCoy

Quoting: Purple Library GuyInteresting asterisk on the systems supported. It supports MacOS, but only "10.14 or older". I've never seen that before; I wonder why.

Cheese wrote about that here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/regarding-mac-31349008

I read all this post and this is very interesting, the kind of thing that should be pinned everywhere.
Seriously I hate Apple for a long time but this post made it worst, thanks that's truly useful.
For me this company is worst than Microsoft in many aspects.

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OK so I downloaded the game without paying to try it out, I launched a "new hive" directly without tutorial and for now... I played it like 2 hours.
Of course I didn't have enough time to get 600 jelly... the queen died. ^_^
I'll play it more seriously and with the tutorial next time, to be sure to not miss some feature etc.

But yeah very good game, so now I bought it. :)

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: WorMzy

Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.

I too can't stand Gnome3. So instead I use Mate and occasionally Cinnamon . . . both of which, I believe, use gtk3. So I feel you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater there.

My view is that it isn't bathwater, it's epoxy resin. The two things are too tightly tied together -- GTK3 is developed by gnome for gnome. They don't care if cinnamon breaks every six months because they changed all the library functions, so long as gnome keeps working. I don't want to deal with gnome's shit, so I don't use gtk3. I'm not attached to that "baby", so I'm not going to waste my time trying to separate it from the "bathwater".

Quoting: CyrilOr rather, why Qt is better than GTK3?

I don't know, and I don't care which is better, and I don't want to get into that debate; I just don't allow gtk3 on my systems and actively avoid applications that use it (unless I can recompile them to use something else).

I don't know about Cinnamon but as I said I'm using XFCE which use GTK3 but I don't see any breaks when updating, and I don't remember having one.
It's clearly your choice but it seems not really solid to me.
But yeah it's very off topic.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: WorMzy

Quoting: Cyril

Quoting: WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.

I too can't stand Gnome3. So instead I use Mate and occasionally Cinnamon . . . both of which, I believe, use gtk3. So I feel you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater there.

Yeah sorry WorMzy but I fail to understand why you don't like GTK3 itself. GTK2/3 and Gnome2/3 are different things.
Just because you hate the Gnome devs, you hate GTK3 too?

I hate the Gnome 3 desktop too (it feel like a tablet or something, so boring to not have many configurations available at start etc), I use XFCE. But maybe I don't know some important things about it, and I'm not a dev myself.
Or rather, why Qt is better than GTK3?

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Quoting: WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

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For Fuck's sake, I hope one day we will get rid of this fucking nonsense...

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Quoting: The_Aquabatmakes me remember of Tank Wars spent countless hours after school playing that on windows 3.1 (when windows did not suck)

And me of this: Tanks, a flash game. :D

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I just want to say: LOL.

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It's me or Zachtronics release a game every 6 months or so? :D

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