Okay, that's your opinion and your choice, but I think it's important that it's brought up so that people understand what they're getting into with Stadia. Personally I've de-Googled myself almost completely except watching videos on YouTube so it's natural for me to be sceptic about getting into Stadia.

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Quoting: mylkasame with steam
how do you think a game knows, when you get a achievement?

Not quite the same.
Googles business model is to sell your data for profit.
Valves business model is to sell games to you.
The latter is inherently less disingenuous.

With Stadia, Google gets yet another privacy invasive way to monitor their users. Sure, some games might not give them much, while others might give them a ton of info about who you are. They even have their own game studio now so imagine if they designed a game specifically to gather as much data about you as possible. Why not? That is their main revenue stream after all.

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Quoting: OdisejDoes Stadia "beam" picture to you computer and computer sends the input to the server? Is that all? It does not matter what OS is being used on the device at home? It can be a 386sx as far as google is concerned? I will be most grateful if somebody explains this.

That's pretty much it! It's like watching a video on YouTube, but it's interactive and let's you send inputs from your controller to Googles server where the game runs. The server encodes a video stream instead of outputting the graphics to a display. The video stream is sent to your client which plays it back just like any video in your browser. For now it's Chrome only. The time it takes between your button press until you see a change on screen is about 150-200ms I think, which is about the same as a console connected to an average TV without "game mode" enabled on the TV, which means it's going to be fine for most people but it will be annoying for latency sensitive people playing fast paced games.

I think that it will be much lower than 150-200ms. I have aprox 80ms round-trip right now over mobile Internet between my home computer in Sweden and one of our servers in the UK. And Google is going to use local servers.

My number is based on DF's test of Project Stream. They are measuring not just network latency but total latency from button press to on screen reaction using a 120fps camera. It's possible it has been improved and will be improved further, but it will never be as fast as playing locally on a decent PC of course. I think Stadia will be fine for a lot of games but I wouldn't use it for stuff like Doom or CS:GO, especially since I like to play those sort of games at higher refresh rates than 60hz.

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Quoting: OdisejDoes Stadia "beam" picture to you computer and computer sends the input to the server? Is that all? It does not matter what OS is being used on the device at home? It can be a 386sx as far as google is concerned? I will be most grateful if somebody explains this.

That's pretty much it! It's like watching a video on YouTube, but it's interactive and let's you send inputs from your controller to Googles server where the game runs. The server encodes a video stream instead of outputting the graphics to a display. The video stream is sent to your client which plays it back just like any video in your browser. For now it's Chrome only. The time it takes between your button press until you see a change on screen is about 150-200ms I think, which is about the same as a console connected to an average TV without "game mode" enabled on the TV, which means it's going to be fine for most people but it will be annoying for latency sensitive people playing fast paced games.

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Quoting: MaathIt will be interesting to see if any of the games on this list which are already out but not available on Linux become available. For example Shadow of the Tomb Raider. The other two in this series are already available for Linux.

We already know that Feral is porting SotTR so that's definitely coming, but there are many other games on the list that will be interesting to see such as Borderlands 3, Metro Exodus, Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, Baldur’s Gate III, Assassin's Creed Odyssey etc. Sadly, I don't have much hope since some of these have been out for years and we know Doom 2016 had an unreleased Linux build years ago. AC: Odyssey was part of Project Stream, the beta test of Stadia, so they had a working build since quite some time ago, yet it's never been released on Linux desktop. So far it's not looking good.

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Nope. Not touching it. Maybe I'll give it a try in 2020 once they release the basic subscription but even then I don't see myself putting much trust or faith in it. No ownership, the ultimate DRM, and don't forget Googles history of suddenly shutting down various services.

Wasn't one of the big selling points supposed to be a low barrier to entry? This looks like a pretty big barrier to me.

It's just a shame that we will probably never see proper Linux releases on Steam, GOG etc. for some, or even most of those games that run on Stadia, even though they clearly run well on Linux.

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Slight off topic, but I just learned that Borderlands 3 is coming to Google Stadia, which surprised me considering the whole Epic exclusive thing.

It also means they have a working Linux build running on Vulkan which I pessimistically suspect we Linux gamers will never see outside of Stadia :(

Source: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/06/google-stadia-requires-130-upfront-10-per-month-at-november-launch/

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Quoting: Xakep_SDKCan this stuttering be fixed from DXVK side?

The way to fix it is to download a pre-built shader cache, which is something that Steam does when using Steam Play. When using Wine instead of Steam Play you will just have to accept the initial stuttering since the cache has to be built locally on your machine.

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Wow, RAGE 2 was released like just now and it's already getting Proton fixes? That's pretty impressive.

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Okay Joshua and Phillip, you realize you are f****ng heroes, right? I cannot thank you enough. ^_^

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