Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Brisse18 years ago and still etched into my memory. Am I getting old?

If you can still remember... no, absolutely not.
But this will change, too. :p

This is true :D

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Quotethe dramatic events which shook the world at that time

18 years ago and still etched into my memory. Am I getting old?

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Quoting: ArehandoroGot Silver, Red Strings Club and Crossing Souls :D

I got Red Strings Club last Steam Sale and one late evening I though "let's just give it a quick go and see what it's about" and I got so hooked it kept me awake until early morning and I finished the game in one sitting :D

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Got all of the Shadowrun trilogy through GOG Connect. Thanks GOG! Currently playing a bit of Dragonfall in between Nier: Automata, The Long Dark and of course Dark Souls.

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Quoting: etonbearsDo you have any idea how big the performance gap is for your setup? (assuming you are prepared to use the proprietary driver for testing)

I have no idea. I don't use the laptop for gaming and it's too old to run games anyway. I'm happy as long as it browses the web and plays video, which it does fine with Nouveau. I don't think theres too much performance disparity on old hardware though. The main problem for Nouveau is lack of re-clocking on modern hardware due to Nvidia's refusal to release firmware and documentation to Nouveau developers.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: elmapulnot having an linux version, but the windows version is DRM free
and:
having an linux version but with drm.

what would you chose?

I stick to DRM-free only, so the first option. Such things actually are not that uncommon unfortunately. There are a number of games that have a Linux version, but it's Steam only, and it has only Windows one on GOG. It's good that at least Windows one is available DRM-free, so I'd prefer that, to not having that option at all.

I.e. for example I can play Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II in Wine (GOG release), while Linux version by Aspyr is limited to Steam. If not for the Windows release at least, I wouldn't have played it at all.

At least some other Aspyr games for Linux came out on GOG. But for instance all Linux games by Feral are Steam exclusives. So even when some of them get DRM-free release on GOG for Windows, Feral refuse to release Linux versions there. It's regrettable, but at least those Windows versions can be playable in Wine.

Example: https://www.gog.com/game/xcom_enemy_unknown_complete_pack

many windows users are already against DRM we cant fight 2 battles at once and expect to win both.
we barely have enough persons to fight the OS wars, fighting against DRM and against microsoft at once will only make we twice as irrelevant in both battles.

At least we are spared from the most draconic DRM methods on Linux, with things like Denuvo being Windows-exclusive.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80I know wayland has progressed by still the best way to play games on linux with with xorg yes i know its old as dirt but it works. Wayland needs about another 3 to 5 years of development to reduce its impact and to intergrate better into steam etc. Just my opinion.

x.org is still preferable but Wayland is progressing and eventually even old games running through xwayland will probably run just as well on (x)Wayland as on native x.org. This recent merge request is a great step in the right direction for GNOME on Wayland but currently it doesn't help much in games because xwayland applications still seem to be stuck at 60fps but it's something that's being worked on.

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Quoting: etonbearsI assume the open source driver, Nouveau, does work with Wayland, but then you lose a lot of the performance advantage from buying NVIDIA in the first place.

Can confirm. I'm actually running Arch with GNOME on Wayland using Nouveau on an old laptop of mine. The proprietary driver has been problematic on that machine.

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Best of luck Intel. The competition is needed, and the FOSS support is appreciated.

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This is scary and exciting at the same time.

+ Platform and hardware no longer matters as long as it can run a web browser.
+ Linux gamers might get access to games they would never had access to otherwise.
+ Servers are going to run Linux. Potentially means more native ports will appear for those of us not streaming.
+ We got Proton and DXVK, which I suspect are parts of a secret Valve streaming project and only released in the Linux Steam client as some sort of icing on the cake.
- The ultimate DRM.
- Big corporations will have way to much power over the consumer.
- The internet will collapse under the huge bandwidth requirements.
- There will always be more latency even though some things can be done to mitigate it.

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