why does humble let you pay only with card, or paypal? why cant i use my humble money?
id take yakuza, but it seems, that i have to buy it in the next steam sale

for now i have ryse, splinter cell, oddworld and deus ex collection from winter sale

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Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: mylkalets take tomb raider. this game is already 50% off and it runs with proton and they still make a linux version

I tried the demo on Proton and while it works, it's not exactly great. I wouldn't play the entire game like that. I had a few crashes and pretty bad performance. Feral will deliver a much better experience with their port and I fully intend to buy it whenever they release it.

and till then its 60% off and they still make enough money
rise of the tomb raider came to linux 2,5yrs after release. it was 10€ in wintersale. 30% to steam and maybe some % to enix. lets say feral makes 5€ per copy and then they have to pay taxes.
i really dont know how they make enough money, but obviously they do, so a linux port cant be that expensive

if feral can exist by porting "old" games to linux, i cant see why it would be a risk to port gta6, far cry 6, wolfenstein 3, cyberpunk to linux. maybe with day 1 linux support like tropico 6

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Quoting: mylka

Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: mylkathis game doesnt even have 200 players and is almost 3yrs old

https://steamdb.info/app/507490/graphs/

why are they making a linux port?

i am not complaining, but i dont get it. RUST has over 40.000 players and they drop linux support
https://steamdb.info/app/252490/graphs/

ARMA 3
https://steamdb.info/app/107410/graphs/
over 12000.... dropped linux

i just dont get it

In my experience, publishers with smaller audiences are more likely to seek additional buyers on other systems. If a game has 40,000 players, the publisher says, "Who needs Linux? We've got 40,000 players. Cancelling support will alienate Linux users? Meh, who cares? It's not worth the support headache." On the other hand if a game has 1,500 players, the publisher says, "Where else can we look for buyers? Will Linux and/or Mac support really cost us that much more?"

what you are saying is big companies dont want more money.
that makes no sense to me.

It is not that big companies do not want more money, it is more like big companies are way more conservative to anything that they think is risky. It seems to me that they are like a big ship, even if an island is literally on their way they are likely to prefer to just avoid it.

is it really a risk, if feral makes a living with just porting games?
lets take tomb raider. this game is already 50% off and it runs with proton and they still make a linux version, so they are gonna make more money, than it costs... i guess
ubisoft, rockstar, bethesda,etc have so many sales and i am sure they also would sell a lot of copies on linux

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Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: mylkathis game doesnt even have 200 players and is almost 3yrs old

https://steamdb.info/app/507490/graphs/

why are they making a linux port?

i am not complaining, but i dont get it. RUST has over 40.000 players and they drop linux support
https://steamdb.info/app/252490/graphs/

ARMA 3
https://steamdb.info/app/107410/graphs/
over 12000.... dropped linux

i just dont get it

In my experience, publishers with smaller audiences are more likely to seek additional buyers on other systems. If a game has 40,000 players, the publisher says, "Who needs Linux? We've got 40,000 players. Cancelling support will alienate Linux users? Meh, who cares? It's not worth the support headache." On the other hand if a game has 1,500 players, the publisher says, "Where else can we look for buyers? Will Linux and/or Mac support really cost us that much more?"

what you are saying is big companies dont want more money.
that makes no sense to me.

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Quoting: mylka

Quoting: jarhead_h

Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: pete910To be honest I hope they optimise the **** out of their Vulkan render to show DX12 up :D

No qualms in waiting for the Linux port if that's what they do!

Their Vulkan renderer has been available for a while on Windows as an alternative to d3d12, and IIRC performance is similar. Great for Windows 7 users who don't have access to d3d12.

And I think that's actually kind of the point. Microsoft will never backport DX12 to Win7/8 but the truth is with Vulkan it's not needed. As long as drivers keep showing up supporting Win7/8 Vulkan can keep people from having to switch to M$'s bloated spyware.

no one uses win8 and win7 support ends with 2019, so its pointless to make vulkan, because they have it on win7. no one will officially support win7 in 2020 because it is a security risk.
todays VULKAN in 2015, when win10 came out could have change developers minds, but now is too late

but VULKAN is still open source and the switch already has it. maybe the new playstation supports vulkan. that could make a difference. it should be easier to port games from PS to PC

Gave me a good laugh. Because games stopped to support XP when it ran out of support. The game devs will go with whatever the target audience is using. They could not care less for security risks their customer has anyway.

you know there is a difference between "support" and "still work"
some software still work on winxp, that doesnt mean, that i get any support for it

of course software will still work on win7. btw there is extended support for win7, but that costs money and is only for companies

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biggest surprise for me was desperados for linux after 17 years
if you dont have it already, buy it now for 1 buck
https://store.steampowered.com/app/260730/Desperados_Wanted_Dead_or_Alive/
and show THQ you want desperados 3 for linux too

btw. why are there no DLCs for Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun?

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exclusive titles work on consoles because you cant crack them as easy as on PC!!!!!!

exclusive titles on PC in just 1 store will lead to piracy and not to changing a store..... if its a SP game of course

i can already hear epic: mimimimi piracy mimimimi

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Quoting: Avehicle7887

Quoting: mylkathis game doesnt even have 200 players and is almost 3yrs old

https://steamdb.info/app/507490/graphs/

why are they making a linux port?

i am not complaining, but i dont get it. RUST has over 40.000 players and they drop linux support
https://steamdb.info/app/252490/graphs/

My guess is that they're not doing it just for this game, they said "core engine", that could be an indication it might come useful for other games.

after 3 years a new one.... that would make more sense. maybe Ashes of the Singularity 2

what about mobile version? android is kinda linux and uses vulkan

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Quoting: jarhead_h

Quoting: mylkano one uses win8 and win7 support ends with 2019, so its pointless to make vulkan, because they have it on win7. no one will officially support win7 in 2020 because it is a security risk.
todays VULKAN in 2015, when win10 came out could have change developers minds, but now is too late

but VULKAN is still open source and the switch already has it. maybe the new playstation supports vulkan. that could make a difference. it should be easier to port games from PS to PC

I used WinXP until long after Win7 had become common. I NEVER upgraded to Win8 or Win10. I finally deleted my last Windows partition middle of 2017. As I am typing this I am tech supporting my brother's Win10 laptop over the phone. Auto-update borked his system and I just talked him through a graphics driver re-install. The point is that people will continue using Win7 after M$ stops issuing security patches because of crap like that.

Quoting: mylkathis game doesnt even have 200 players and is almost 3yrs old

https://steamdb.info/app/507490/graphs/

why are they making a linux port?

i just dont get it

Well, maybe they think there's a bunch of RTS players in the linux ecosystem and want to sell copies. The economics of different genres really are different. Stardock was one of the first devs to go DRM-free, and the reason they said that they did so is because no one steals RTS games. The pirates steal the hell out of shooters, but not strategy games.

not the best idea to use an unsupported OS. also must be a very old PC (i know winxp has a higher market share on steam than linux)
win7 doesnt even support new CPUs. AMD and NVIDIA wont make new drivers for win7 in 2020


why stealing? i dont think piracy is a big issue on linux. i know there are some linux games on warez sites, but they are mostly from gog.
rust also is a MP game. dont know if you can play a cracked copy online.

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this game doesnt even have 200 players and is almost 3yrs old

https://steamdb.info/app/507490/graphs/

why are they making a linux port?

i am not complaining, but i dont get it. RUST has over 40.000 players and they drop linux support
https://steamdb.info/app/252490/graphs/

ARMA 3
https://steamdb.info/app/107410/graphs/
over 12000.... dropped linux

i just dont get it

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