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Alyana Jul 11, 2019
Hi folks,

a friend asked me about which graphics card to get for a new Linux gaming PC. Does not have to be high end, I think a card that is about the performance of a GeForce 1050ti will be sufficient.

Maybe someone here could give me an info about the current status of the driver situation regarding Nvidia vs AMD?

Thank you very much :)
damarrin Jul 11, 2019
To give some balance to zombie's post:

Nvidia's drivers are good right now, with excellent performance and there's no reason to think it will change in the future. AMD is often late with drivers for new hardware and performance is highly debatable, often requiring users to install pre-release Mesa and kernels to have a functioning card at all. Installing and updating Nvidia drivers is done through the package manager just like AMD's and is equally painless. Plus, there's no need to update parts of the system through unofficial channels to have your card running well.
sr_ls_boy Jul 11, 2019
If your friend is going to run Windows titles through Steam Play, DXVK recommends at
least 8 GB of video memory. Running out of memory is a big problem on 4gb cards.
Werner Jul 11, 2019
i would really love to use a amd card, but in my eyes in its current state it is not as smooth as running a nvidia card.
I built a PC and bought a used RX580, all good after adding ppa for mesa and ukuu for newer kernel, then all runs good, but as soon as you want do do some little tuning, like undervolt, or just handle fan,...... its in my eyes a pain in its current state, i wasted days to get it how i wanted it. Also i had heat issues in my ssfpc, so i decided to replace it with a used GTX 1070, since then no overheating issues, but the best thing was, install the driver and use the nvidia settings were all is in what i need, done in minutes.
I really would love to switch again to AMD Gfx and as soon as they get their stuff together i will, but currently i have to say i am happy with Nvidia even when i don't like them.
Rooster Jul 11, 2019
The way I see it:


NVIDIA:

Pros:
- better value for the same price
Cons:
- proprietary drivers
- more likely to have issues during installation

AMD:

Pros:
- open source drivers
- works out of the box with most distros
Cons:
- less supported for Linux native games (example: https://support.feralinteractive.com/en/faqs/mesa_support/)
Xpander Jul 11, 2019
Quoting: chancho_zombieI like AMD nothing is holding me back from running the latest kernel, updating the drivers is just trivial. With NVIDIA you are stuck with older kernels. With the work done by valve and other companies, there is a lot improvement potential on the AMD drivers, most likely AMD drivers will improve in the upcoming years and NVIDIA will just stale.

As for performance AMD counterparts are on par with NVIDIA, so if you are not going for the high end, where NVIDIA has the lead, on the mid-range and low range AMD it's the clear choice (imho).

stuck with older kernels, really?. There have been few issues with rc kernels, but you can still patch the drivers for git builds. Anyway, with up to date release kernels, i never experienced any issues with drivers, you just have to have the latest drivers for latest kernel/xorg. Aalso you don't usually need git kernels with nvidia as they dont give you anything, with AMD you likely need, because of added features/improvements etc.


I'd say Nvidia is more pain free on Linux. Install the distro, Install the drivers and be done with it.
With AMD there are so many combinations of drivers, LLVM versions, Gallium, Mesa all the mess, to get up to date.
That being said, i think in midrange AMD is still pretty good. Navi GPUs specially, but they need some driver improvements first. Polaris seems way too powerhungry for its perf, compared to competition imo, but if the price is good, then polaris cards are pretty good.
BTRE Jul 11, 2019
Quoting: RoosterAMD:

Cons:
- less supported for Linux native games (example: https://support.feralinteractive.com/en/faqs/mesa_support/)

It's important to distinguish between "not supported" and "doesn't work" - I have nearly every Feral port and they all work with Mesa now. A lot of the "not supported" in that list was when Mesa was missing certain OpenGL extensions or whatnot years ago.

In practice, there's only a handful of games in my several hundred steam game library that don't work or require a Mesa-specific workaround. So long as you have a recent kernel and recent Mesa you should be good to go.

As for performance: radv is excellent and if you look at benchmarks on Phoronix and other sites, AMD cards are competitive with their Nvidia offerings in their price range save for the really high end range.

Quoting: XpanderWith AMD there are so many combinations of drivers, LLVM versions, Gallium, Mesa all the mess, to get up to dat.
The only time you need to worry about LLVM is if you're compiling from source. On Arch it's as simple as installing the Mesa package and the vulkan-radeon package. What else would you need?
Shmerl Jul 12, 2019
I'd recommend to wait a bit, if that's an option, and then get one of the new Navi cards using custom, not reference design. By the time custom design cards will come out, kernel and Mesa will be in better shape. Navi are really the best cards AMD offers, and especially AMD RX 5700 XT is enough to play even demanding games at 2560x1440 with very good framerates.
Shmerl Jul 12, 2019
Quoting: RoosterAMD:

Cons:
- less supported for Linux native games (example: https://support.feralinteractive.com/en/faqs/mesa_support/)

This FAQ looks very outdated, referencing some ancient and obsolete versions of Mesa, so it's not relevant today.

The notion that Mesa has less supported games today is simply incorrect. Mesa developers gradually fixed most issues that affected older games. Overall, Nvidia doesn't have less issues than AMD, including for new games.
Xpander Jul 12, 2019
Quoting: chancho_zombie@Xpander

of course nvidia drivers solution is less than ideal, if I want to run a newer kernel than the default (4.12) on OpenSuSe, then getting the packages from the Nvidia repo will not work. That's what I was referring to.

I mean really?? they only provide support for the (ancient) 4.12 kernel on OpenSUSE?? it must be a bad joke, I like to run old kernels but not _that_ old, the 4.19 lts branch is already point 58 release. Is that the best NVIDIA can do??

no idea about suse, but running kernel 5.2 and nvidia 430.26 for last 5 days without issues.
Sojiro84 Jul 12, 2019
I recently upgraded my old PC that was Intel and NVIDIA to a AMD build.

So I had:
Intel 3rd Gen Quadcore at 4Ghz
NVIDIA GTX 1080

I now have:
Ryzen 2700x
AMD 580

I basically bought the 580 just to test out the experience with the opensource AMD driver. I was planning on switching back to my GTX 1080 since that card is more powerful but the opensource driver experience was so much better with AMD that I went with a lesser card.

The experience with the AMD driver on Linux is also better then NVIDIA. NVIDIA isn't bad but it had some quirks with my triple monitor setup and with AMD I had no issues there.

Performance wise, NVIDIA is better, but AMD is a better fit with Linux.
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