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I've always thought that PPC should've gotten Snow Leopard too. At the very least for the dual-processor G4s, Aluminum G4 PowerBooks, the last of the G4 iBooks, and the G5s. But Apple unfortunately ditched PPC with Snow Leopard.
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I always thought that Apple making those first generation low-end x86 Macs with 32-bit chips was a mistake. They should've just went straight to x86-64 and never bothered with IA-32. Cause then the stupid decision to remove 32-bit support would've never had to have been made.
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That said, Rosetta was a fantastic solution to the architecture change, and was the second thing ever to open my eyes to the potential for compatibility-layers in computing (the first was the official BBC Micro emulator for the Acorn Archimedes, which I was quite impressed with back in primary-school, where those computers were commonplace). It's been really neat seeing that pay off with Wine and Proton these days!
I had a G4 as far as the laptops went - I think that, for the time, it really hit the sweet-spot for performance and reliability. I skipped over the G3 iBooks with the notorious motherboard problems, even though I loved the brightly-coloured casings (I wanted a red one, way back when, and I'd love to see some other company pick up a similar aesthetic someday when it inevitably comes back into fashion).
I'm glad that x86 in portables has improved so much since then, though, since that's been good for me on the Linux front. I don't think I would want to use PPC nowadays, since I'd be losing some flexibility, but it would've been nice if it had gone on for longer than it did.
Totally agreed! I can accept that, marketing-wise or at least shareholders-wise, it was probably the right thing for them to switch to x86, but going 32-bit at that point was never the best move.
I miss the G4 iBooks. They were built like tanks, in spite of their relatively slim appearance. Loved them.
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PPC had the last laugh though after Apple. The 360, Wii, and Wii U all were PowerPC based, and the Cell in the PS3 was POWER based. The GameCube also was PPC, and at E3 2005 the 360 kiosks were actually using G5 PowerMacs. Plus FreeBSD has really good PPC support still, and there were (are?) good Linux distros for it as well.
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Also since people mntion which Macs they have: We have a MacBook Air Early 2015 running 10.14, just because updates take a lot of time and disk space. Still good with macOS, even better with Linux.
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(previous couple of jobs let me install and maintain Arch on the provided laptop, 10000% more productive.)
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(That's from an audiobook biography about Steve Jobs, although I haven't listened to it myself. I've only gotten into conversations about it with someone who has)
As for the topic of this thread, I would be surprised, but nonetheless happy if my 2017 Mac was supported with the next major version of macOS. I believe next year's will be the last for x86 macs based on 2019 being the last year an x86 Apple computer was released. After that, I'll be getting another two years of support from Adobe, which will give me some time to figure out what the hell I'm going to do instead.
I've switched to Affinity for some stuff, so I might end up just using that even when my Mac computer is no longer supported, at least for a while. I need After Effects too, though, which is trickier. I've considered installing Windows 11 on it, but that's tricky because of the TPM requirement. If the next major version supports x86 Macs newer than mine, then I'll probably use OpenCore to buy some more time. This Mac was really expensive and still performs well, so I'm not going to just throw it out after 8 years of usage. But writing over it with GNU/Linux wouldn't help me with the proprietary software I need.
I live in hope that, by that point, H.264's patents will have expired, DaVinci Resolve will have encode/decode support on GNU/Linux (even if AAC still isn't there...), and I can move my After Effects workflow to DaVinci Fusion or Natron. That, or I'm going to use Lightworks...
I'll probably be opening Photoshop and inDesign in a Windows VM. But by that point, Affinity Photo might work well through Wine. So I might only need inDesign for very rare occasions (yay). As much as I prefer the macOS interface to Windows (if only slightly), I admittedly only use Windows and macOS as a bootloader for the Adobe suite and a few other proprietary applications, so it doesn't matter to me that much.
I'm hoping 2026/7 looks very different.
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