Capcom claims that all PC game mods are equivalent to cheating, and that they cause reputational damage to the company.
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Pengling Nov 12, 2023
Well, this isn't looking pretty!

I watched an interesting video by YouTuber SidAlpha, about a recent statement by Capcom software-engineer, Taro Yahagi. Apparently, Capcom sees all modding of PC games as being cheating, and sees it as something that can damage their reputation, and appear to be planning to double-down on anti-cheat and anti-tamper by creating their own in addition to using outside solutions, accordingly. So, beware, it looks like Capcom games might become problematic for Linux users in the future.

Though this does explain why they added Denuvo to a barebones PC up-port of a decade-old Nintendo DS game, I must say that I find this quite bizarre coming from a company like Capcom. They seem to have forgotten the reputational damage that they did to themselves by not bothering to make any games at all for the shared 25th anniversaries for a couple of their biggest series (Mega Man and Street Fighter), and then had to hastily publish a fan-game under their own banner to try to cover up for that, and then left fans without products to buy for so many years that ROM-hacks became the primary way to play new content for one of those series. In my eyes, that damaged their reputation far more than allowing PC-game mods ever will.

I also find it naive that Capcom seems to think that cheating and tampering do not and cannot occur on consoles, and that this issue is exclusive to PCs. I can say from personal experience that, if anything, cheaters on certain consoles are just as bad, if not worse!

Oddly, they think that third-party mods will cause them reputational damage - probably in reference to an incident in August where a Street Fighter tournament-organiser accidentally left a nude mod active, though they don't say this directly. I can't help feeling like this is underestimating and insulting the intelligence of their audience - I doubt that anyone is thinking that Capcom really made their character naked or officially put Thomas the Tank Engine into Resident Evil or the like!

They equate not having anti-cheat and anti-tamper to profit-loss on day one. However, I think that they have it backwards - personally, if those things are present on a product, I won't buy it.

Capcom's full 50-minute video, spoken in Japanese and supplied with an official English text translation on-screen, is available on the official Capcom R&D YouTube channel.
StoneColdSpider Nov 12, 2023
Quoting: Penglingthat can damage their reputation
Because mods ruin their reputation unlike on disc DLC....... Or their Street Fighter Licence......... Or when Capcom was hacked.....

Its all the modders fault your reputation has been damaged........ Right.........
Linux_Rocks Nov 12, 2023
I don't own many Capcom games on PC and only bother with their games on consoles usually. Most of my modern Capcom purchases have been their collections physically on the Switch.

Off-hand I can only think of Lost Planet Extreme Condition: Colonies Edition, Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara, The Disney Afternoon Collection, and DuckTales: Remastered as games of theirs that I've got on PC (Steam).

Lost Planet cause it was cross-platform with the 360 when it still worked when GFWL existed. D&D I've got on the Wii U, but Remote Play Together and it being super cheap made me double dip. The Disney Afternoon Collection is bafflingly absent on the Switch. So I just got it on Steam. Then I've got DuckTales: Remastered physically on the Wii U. But it was dirt cheap on Steam and goes with the Disney Afternoon Collection too.
Linux_Rocks Nov 12, 2023
Oh, and to be honest, if I was gonna play newer Capcom games on a computer. I'd just get the Apple Silicon native versions on macOS at this point. If there's gonna be extra DRM or whatever, then I may as well just go that route with them.
Shmerl Nov 12, 2023
Just a usual dumb DRM driven mentality.
damarrin Nov 12, 2023
It’s clear for some reason they (if this person represents the views of the company) are scared of negative media coverage and internet social media shitstorms.

It’s an interesting view to hold. Apart from the obvious (lost sales because of controversy, though it seems controversy usually fuels sales), are there any other repercussions they may be thinking of? The only thing that comes to my mind are the completely insane class action lawsuits in the US, like the one Rockstar got for the hot coffee mod. An American company might welcome that for the publicity, a Japanese one might not.
StoneColdSpider Nov 12, 2023
Quoting: damarrinThe only thing that comes to my mind are the completely insane class action lawsuits in the US, like the one Rockstar got for the hot coffee mod
The issue with the Hot Coffee mod was that all the files and assets and the game mode itself was R*'s and was sitting on the retail disc....... The mod just unlocked the content that was already on the disc...... If it was all the mod makers assets and game mode it would not have been a controversy for R* or Take Two at all.........

This is why there was a class action lawsuit...... To obtain a "Mature" rating from the ESRB they needed to remove the "Hot Coffee" game mode....... But they didnt remove the files for it....... They just locked the game mode so the users "couldnt" access it........ So it still had all the files sitting on the disc that gave the game a "Adults Only" rating...... But was being sold with a "Mature" rating.........
BlackBloodRum Nov 12, 2023
I'd argue the DRM can cause more reputational damage than any given mod. Look at the backlash over Ubisoft removing the activation servers for their older games.

Mark my words, when Denuvo devs stop paying Denuvo for their older games, a lot of games will become simply unusable for the legitimate customer.
Grogan Nov 12, 2023
Well, I don't happen to own a single Capcom game, so I'll thumb my nose as they ride the bologna pony off into the sunset.

They've just ensured that I never will.

P.S. Oops! I just looked through lists of all of Capcom's games and I do have one, Lost Planet 3, but I don't like it. I finished it once back in my Windows gaming days, but the yuck factor was high. It had its moments, but it was tedious. I enjoyed the "dead space-like" objectives where you have to go and fix something, but the mech suit combat against the creatures on that planet was a bore. I tried it again a few months ago and it works on Linux now (didn't for years), but didn't get half way through it because I wasn't liking it. Funny how you want something you can't have (want to see that game again, on Linux), then when you finally get it... meh. I likely will not install Lost Planet 3 again

Last edited by Grogan on 12 November 2023 at 6:43 pm UTC
damarrin Nov 13, 2023
Quoting: StoneColdSpiderThis is why there was a class action lawsuit.

As far as I can tell the only reason there's ever a class-action lawsuit in America is because some lawyers think they have a shot at getting a settlement with a huge corporation and make millions.
StoneColdSpider Nov 13, 2023
Quoting: damarrin
Quoting: StoneColdSpiderThis is why there was a class action lawsuit.

As far as I can tell the only reason there's ever a class-action lawsuit in America is because some lawyers think they have a shot at getting a settlement with a huge corporation and make millions.
Maybe...... But as we have seen from the myriad of nude, sexual and violent mods for games that have none of that content in their games (examples.... the nude mods for all of the EA "The Sims" games)....... That have been available with zero class actions against them it very much shows that it was R*'s own content that was already sitting on their discs is a big reason as to why that lawsuit even got off the ground.......

R* and Take Two even had to reach a settlement with a FTC investigation against them........ "With the FTC ruling that Take-Two and Rockstar Games had violated the Federal Trade Commission Act of 1914 by failing to disclose the inclusion of "unused, but potentially viewable" nude imagery and sexual content in the game, regardless of whether the content was enabled by a third party."

R* and Take Two damaged their own reputations and brought on their own "negative media coverage" and any loss of sales because it was their own content already sitting on the discs....... Not the modders........
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